半額。Teppei、Kimi。Half price. Teppei, Kimi.
はい、一、二、三Yes, one, two, three
。Kimi、. Kimi,
ちん。chin.
ちん。chin.
おはよう。Good morning.
おはよう、グルト。Good morning, Guruto.
おは、うん、おはようび、月曜日。Morning, yeah, good morning, Monday.
そうね、今日いつも火曜日だけど、今日月曜日ね。Right, today is usually Tuesday, but today is Monday.
なんかちょっと声が小さいな、Teppeiちゃん。Your voice sounds a bit quiet, Teppei-chan.
あら、そうですか。Oh, really?
どうですか。How about this?
まあまあ。So-so.
まあまあ、OK。So-so, OK.
うん。Yeah.
ちょっとマイクの音量が低いかな。Your mic volume is a bit low.
じゃあちょっと、ちょっとだけ。Then, just a little, just a bit.
どうでしょう。あ、How about this. Ah,
いいです。That's good.
はいはい、月曜日ね。Yes yes, it's Monday.
あの、月曜日にした理由は、まあ明日火曜日は、あの、まあ休み、Well, the reason we made it Monday is, well tomorrow Tuesday is, well, a holiday,
そう、まあ休日ね、休日。Right, well it's a holiday, a holiday.
まあ理由はアメリカの、あの、中間選挙は関係なく、Well the reason has nothing to do with America's, um, midterm elections,
うん、まあ偶然だけど、そう、偶然同じだけど、明日は日本は文化の日ということで、Yeah, well it's a coincidence, but, yes, coincidentally the same, but tomorrow Japan has Culture Day,
えー、休みなので、まあね、家族、子供とかがいるため、えー、今日月曜日にSo, it's a holiday, so, well, you know, because I have family, kids and such, so, today Monday
レコーディングを動かして、we moved the recording to,
で、まあ朝9時ということで、あの、まあ俺は別にいつもレッスン、一番最初のレッスンは9時だから、And, well it's 9am, so, well for me my first lesson is always at 9 anyway,
まあ別にいつもと変わらないけども、今日はちょっと早起きをして、いつもよりちょっと早起きをして。So it's no different than usual, but today I woke up a bit early, woke up a bit earlier than usual.
月曜日、一日、あの、朝からたくさんのことをしようと思ったMonday, for the whole day, I thought I'd do lots of things from the morning
けど、気がついたらbut, before I knew it
まあ掃除、洗濯、片付け、そしてなんか月曜日の朝ってなんか週末の片付けがあるから、Well cleaning, laundry, tidying up, and Monday mornings have that weekend cleanup,
めっちゃなんかreally somehow
いつもよりも散らかってるみたいな感じで、it feels even messier than usual,
もうね、さっき怒ったよ、奥さんに。I just got mad, at my wife.
奥、あの、家出た奥さんにすぐメッセージ送った。I immediately sent a message to my wife after she left the house.
なんで出た後に送ったの？Why did you send it after she left?
会った時に言えばいいじゃん。You could've just said it when you saw her.
いや、なんか出た後になんか三十分ぐらい片付けしながら、もうやだ、なんで俺は一人でこんなことをしなきゃいけないんだ。No, like after she left, while tidying up for like thirty minutes, like ugh, why do I have to do all this alone.
うん、いや、偉いね。Yeah, no, good for you.
いや、偉い、主婦だもんね。No, good, you're a housewife.
いやいや、なんていうかな、まあNo no, like, well
なんかさ、月曜日の朝一人で片付けをするあのむなしさね。Like, you know, that emptiness of tidying up alone on a Monday morning.
まあね、まあいわゆる子供と奥さんは家を出ればなんか月曜日が始まるわけじゃん。Well, you know, for the kids and wife, Monday starts once they leave the house.
うんうん。Yeah yeah.
でも家にいる人ってさ、ここで一日過ごすからまずやっぱりある程度すっきりしないとなんか気持ちがね。But for the person staying home, you spend the whole day here, so you need it somewhat tidy to feel right.
まあね、そう、そうだね。Well yeah, right, that's true.
そうでしかもね、Right and also,
そのために早く起きたにもかかわらずeven though I woke up early for that
本でおるごhon de oru go
まあまあ子供も仕方ないけれどもでも子供と奥さんの食べた後の皿を洗い、うん、Well, well kids can't be helped, but still washing the dishes after the kids and wife ate, yeah,
あのなんていうの、洗濯を干してYou know, like, hanging out the laundry and stuff,
全部イライラした今日は。everything just irritated me today.
まあそういうイライラする日もあるよね。Well, there are days like that when you're irritated.
でもそれはあれだよね。But that's, you know.
自分の気持ち次第だね。It's up to how you feel.
待ってよ。Wait.
待ってよ。Wait.
じゃあ待って。Well then wait.
あのね。あ、Um, uh,
共感して欲しかった。I wanted you to empathize.
いやいや言うなよ。No no, don't say that.
分かるよ。I get it.
違う違う。No no.
いやさ、じゃなくて共感して欲しいというか絶対共感すると思ってたの実は。No, it's not that, I mean I wanted you to empathize, actually I thought you'd totally empathize.
ああごめんごめん。Oh sorry sorry.
いやいや違う違う。No no, that's not it.
ごめんじゃなくてちょっとあの意外だからちょっと教えて。Not sorry, it's just unexpected so tell me a bit.
え、だって月曜日の朝だから。Huh, because it's Monday morning.
多分私もめっちゃ分かるみたいに言うと思ったの。I thought you'd be like, I totally get it too.
そうそう私もさっきまでバタバタしてもう大変だったやっと子供が出ていってみたいに言うかと思ったよ。Yeah yeah, I thought you'd say like, I was rushing around until just now, it was crazy, the kids finally left, stuff like that.
うん。Yeah.
何それ。What's that.
何なんか暇なの。What, are you like free or something.
月曜日の朝なのに暇なの。It's Monday morning and you're free?
いややることはものすごくあるよ。No, I have so much to do.
特になんか実は大量の服をね、そう、あのどうにかしなきゃいけない。Actually there's like a huge pile of clothes I have to do something about.
いや違うの、No, that's not it,
もうただの月曜日忙しいっていうレベルじゃなくて、あの実は冬ものをね、そう、ちょっと寒くなってきたじゃない。It's not just a normal busy Monday level, actually it's the winter clothes, you know, it's gotten a bit cold.
そう、でもうちほら今引っ越しとかしてたから、なんかあのなんていうの、あの圧縮袋Yeah, but since we were moving and stuff, you know, like those compression bags,
あるじゃん、圧縮袋にいっぱい入れてこう分けてね。you know, compression bags, I had packed a bunch sorted in them.
でそれを取り出したらさ、ちょっとなんかカビ臭かったのね。And when I took them out, they smelled a bit moldy.
なんかわかる？You know what I mean?
いやカビ臭いっていうか、なんかちょっとさ、湿ってるっていうかさ、そのまま着たくないみたいな状態だったわけよ。Well, not exactly moldy, but kind of damp, like I wouldn't want to wear them as-is.
まあまあね。Well yeah.
でそれがえっと土曜日だから、それを全部コインランドリーに持って行って洗ったわけよね。And so on Saturday, I took all of that to the coin laundry and washed it.
ね。Right.
でそしたらさ、もうすごい何、もうもう四箱分くらい段ボールの服が。And then, like, there were like four cardboard boxes worth of clothes.
うん、まあわかる、家族だからね。Yeah, well I get it, it's a family after all.
そうそうそうそうそう。Right right right right.
ジャンパーとかなんやら全部洗って。Washed all the jackets and everything.
で、And,
昨日ね、あ、昨日じゃないか、おとといか、土曜日うちハロウィンイベントで、もうもうだからね、本当Yesterday, no, not yesterday, the day before, Saturday we had a Halloween event, so really,
はそんなね、服なんて洗ってる場合じゃないくらい別のことで忙しかったのに、I was so busy with other stuff I didn't even have time to wash clothes,
もうもうかなりね、もう間に合わない、もう間に合わないって言ってすっごい焦ってたの。I was really panicking like, I'm not gonna make it, I'm not gonna make it.
そうなのにうちの旦那がコインランドリーで洗ってくるって言って、もう封印のままの袋を開けてしまってAnd despite that my husband said he'd wash them at the coin laundry, and opened the still-sealed bags,
ね。you know.
やらなきゃいけなくなっちゃったじゃん。So now I had to do it.
でそれが今私の何ある部屋の中にAnd now in my, you know, room there's
いっぱい洗った服があってそれを今日あの片付けなきゃいけない。a bunch of washed clothes and I have to put them away today.
もうやだな。Ugh, I hate it.
いやでもそれは一応冬の服なんだよね。No, but those are technically winter clothes, you know.
そうそうそうそうそう。Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah.
でまあ洗って昨日一昨日干したんだよね完全に。And well I washed them and hung them out completely yesterday, the day before.
あもうコインランドリーコインランドリーで全部やっただって間に合わない間に合わない。はいはいOh I already did everything at the coin laundry, at the coin laundry, because I wouldn't make it in time, wouldn't make it. Yeah yeah
はい。Yes.
でありすぎて。There was too much of it.
そしてまあ今ちょっとしわくちゃな感じで。And well now it's a bit wrinkled.
しわくちゃっていうか一応分けたけど分けたけどなんかタンスにはまだ半袖が残ってるからWell not wrinkled, I did sort them, I sorted them but there are still short sleeves left in the dresser
まあでももうそろそろ半袖もいらないよね。Well but we don't need short sleeves anymore soon, right.
まあなんかちょっとなんかさ微妙じゃん微妙だけどなんかそのね今の時期ってちょっとねなんかちょっと半袖いる。Well it's kind of, you know, iffy, iffy but like, this time of year, you kind of need short sleeves a bit.
いやでも半袖はずっと使うけどね、うちの場合は。あ、No, but we use short sleeves all year, in our case. Oh,
そう。Right.
うん、俺も子供も奥さんも、まあ奥さんは長袖か。Yeah, me and the kids and my wife, well my wife wears long sleeves though.
でも、うん、俺と子供、あの東京で、まあ電車の中とか、But, yeah, me and the kids, like in Tokyo, well on the train and stuff,
あのまあ店の中とか暑いんだよね、本当に。Like, well, inside stores and stuff it's hot, really.
ああ、じゃ半袖ジャンパーみたいな。Ah, so like short sleeves with a jumper.
そう、半袖に例えばシャツかフーディで、その上にまあジャケットとか着て、全部こう脱げるようにね。Yeah, short sleeves with for example a shirt or hoodie, and on top of that like a jacket, so you can take it all off.
うんうんうん。Yeah yeah yeah.
であのなんか長袖の、まあちょっと厚手のTシャツとかセーターとか、And like long-sleeved, well slightly thick T-shirts or sweaters,
あと前の開かないフーディとかだと、こう脱がないといけないじゃん、人前で。And pullover hoodies that don't open in front, you have to take them off, in front of people.
そうね。Right.
で俺のセクシーなシックスパックがこう見えるわけよ。Then my sexy six-pack would show.
そしたら周りの女性たちがモゾモゾし始めるから、ちょっと落ち着かないからね。Then the women around start getting restless, so it's unsettling.
セクハラというか何というか、まあハラスメントじゃないけど、まあセクシープレゼントみたいになっちゃうから。It's like sexual harassment or what, well not harassment, but it becomes like a sexy present.
え、シックスパックあるの？Wait, you have a six-pack?
いやいやあるよ。No no I do.
本当に本当に。Really really.
いやいやすごいね。No no that's amazing.
でもどうやってそれを確かめたいの？But how do you want to verify that?
いやいいや。No, it's fine.
そんな見せるとかいうのはちょっとあれじゃない？Showing it like that is a bit, you know?
えでもすごいね。But wow, that's amazing.
で何気にあのシックスパックは結構大変だよね。And actually, that six-pack is pretty tough, you know.
ちゃんとやってないとね。You have to keep it up properly.
いやいやいや笑ってるだけでついたよ。No no no I just got it from laughing.
笑ってるだけでってすごくない？Just from laughing, isn't that amazing?
うん本当本当。Yeah really really.
常にキミちゃんがもう笑かしてくれるから。Kimi-chan is always making me laugh.
いや今日びっくりしたね。No I was surprised today.
だからまあさっきの話はまあ。So well, the story from earlier, well.
俺が月曜日の朝大変だったという話をしたけど、もちろんキミちゃんはそれ以上の大変があって、I talked about how tough my Monday morning was, but of course Kimi-chan had it even tougher,
そしてもうなんかもう悟ってるみたいな状態ね。And she's like already enlightened or something.
もうなんか大変すぎて、テッちゃん何言ってんのみたいな状態だったと。Like it was so tough, she was like, Tet-chan what are you talking about.
ああ私が私のポジションがそうそうだからもうだって俺はさ一応片付け終わって今部屋の中綺麗なんだけど、Ah, my position, right right, because I've finished tidying up and my room is clean now, but,
キミちゃんはまだ山のようなこう服がそのまま、それでなんか冷静に逆に冷静になってるって感じ。Kimi-chan still has a mountain of clothes just sitting there, and she's conversely become calm about it.
いや違うんだよ。No, that's not it.
まあ私はね悟ったんだよ。Well, I've reached enlightenment.
だから俺悟ったって言ったじゃん。So I said enlightened, right.
俺悟ったって違うのよ。No, my enlightened is different.
私は悟ってるのよ。I'm the one who's enlightened.
いやなんかもうそうそう通り越したんだね。No, like, it's already gone beyond that point.
そうそうそう。Right, right, right.
そうそうそうそうそうその通り。Yes, yes, yes, yes, exactly.
うん、そうそうだよね。Yeah, right, right, that's true.
だからきみちゃんはもう、うん、大変すぎて、まあしかもハロウィンの片付けも残ってると。So Kimi-chan is already, yeah, it's too much, and on top of that the Halloween cleanup is still left.
ああ、まあハロウィンの片付けは昨日やったけど。Ah, well I did the Halloween cleanup yesterday though.
そうで、でももうその、そう、とにかくイベント用にね、とりあえずもうRight, and, but already, like, yeah, anyway for the event, for now just
服とかはそのある一部屋に押し込んで、だからもうその部屋がすごいことになってるもん。I shoved clothes and stuff into one room, so that room is now a total disaster.
そうだよね。That's right.
で、友達とかが来て、なんかおお、こたつ出てるね、すごいね、きみちゃんみたいなこと言って、で、まあみたいな、一つの部屋に全部押し込んで。And friends come over and say like, oh, you've got the kotatsu out, amazing, so Kimi-chan, and well, like, shoved everything into one room.
そうそうそうそう、全部押し込んでね。Right, right, right, right, just shoved it all in.
困ったときね、みんなやるでしょ。When you're in trouble, everyone does that, right.
最悪まあね、その部屋開けちゃダメみたいなやつね。At worst, like, that room is off-limits, don't open it.
うん、そうそう、ママの部屋子供とかが入って行って、おお、やめてくれみたいな。Yeah, right, right, like kids go into mom's room and it's like, oh, stop it.
あるでしょ。That happens, right.
そう。Yeah.
うちはね結構もうやテッちゃんみたいに結構こまめにちゃんとね掃除してる人は本当に偉い。In my house, people like Tecchan who clean diligently and frequently are really admirable.
いや私もやっているけどなんか間に合ってないんだよね。No, I do it too, but I just can't keep up.
正直。Honestly.
まあやっぱり子供三人だとちょっと違う次元の話だよね。Well, with three kids it's a whole different level, isn't it.
なんかねなんかまあそうそうそうなんか散らかし方がさやっぱりなんていうの尋常じゃないじゃん。Like, the way they mess things up is, you know, just not normal.
尋常じゃない。It's not normal.
尋常じゃないじゃん。It's not normal, right.
なんか例えばさ料理してたらさ二歳の子がさきききききとか言ってさなんかお皿をさ全部まあプラスチックの皿とかなんだけどLike for example, when I'm cooking, the two-year-old goes kiki kiki and takes all the plates, well they're plastic plates, but
全部持ってってなんかおままごとっていうかさ全部並べてんのね床とかになんか床とかテーブルにわかる。takes them all and lines them up like playing house, on the floor or on the table, you know.
やめてくれみたいななんかそうそう並べ始めるね。Like stop it, they start lining them up.
並べ始めてそうなのなんかでそれがもう楽しくてどんどんどんどん出しては並べるみたいな。They start lining them up, yeah, and it's so fun for them they just keep taking more out and lining them up.
そうそう、わかる、そういうのとかやり始めるからね、もう仕方ないけどね。Right, right, I get it, they start doing stuff like that, so it can't be helped.
あの、Um,
あれ、きみちゃん今あの自分の家っていうか違う家にいるんだよね。Wait, Kimi-chan, you're at a different house now, not your own, right.
そう、もうまだいるよ。Yeah, I'm still there.
もうまた新たな問題があって、もうちょっと何、憂鬱なんだけど。There's yet another new problem, so I'm feeling kind of down.
ちょっとさ、俺のまず最初の質問は、あのハロウィンパーティーはそこでやったんだよね。あ、So, my first question is, you held the Halloween party there, right. Oh,
うん。で、Yeah. And,
でもあのハロウィンパーティーはうち、あのトリック・オア・トリートをしたの。But for the Halloween party, we did trick-or-treating.
なんかあのご近所さん十件にお願いして、してくださいって。Like we asked about ten neighbors to please do it.
うん、いや違うの、私たちが行くから、お菓子を、トリック・オア・トリートね、トントントンってやったらお菓子をくれるように。No, it's not that, we go to them, so that when we go knock knock and say trick-or-treat, they'll give us candy.
あのもちろんお菓子は私が用意して前もってお願いしますお願いしますってやって、まあまあOf course I prepared the candy myself and asked them in advance, please, please, so well,
そうかなんかそうだよねなんか買ってくれみたいなちょっとあれだよね。Yeah, like asking them to buy it would be a bit much, right.
そうそうででもねなんか例えばRight, right, and but, like for example,
あのアメリカ人の人はLike the American person,
なんかいるんだけどね毎年アメリカからちょうど帰ってくるからアメリカのキャンディ、うちは自分で用意するからいいよとかって言ってくれるthere is one, but every year they come back from America just in time, so they say they'll prepare American candy themselves, it's fine,
めちゃめちゃねもう子供にとってはいいじゃんもう英語でthat's so great for the kids, they respond in English,
ね対応してくれるから本当のハロウィンみたいにやってくれてso they do it like a real Halloween,
でもなんか毎年みんなねなんかちょっとずつBut every year everyone adds a little bit,
なんかこれlike this,
これみたいななんか足しとくねとかなんかハロウィンの飾りとかねなんかみんなすごい協力的はいはいはいそうだよねそうででもでも最初は大変だったねこれもう6like, I'll add this, or Halloween decorations, everyone's so cooperative, right, right, yeah, but at first it was tough, we've been doing this for 6
年前からからやってるんだけどもうyears now, but,
最初はほら営業みたいな。at first it was like sales pitches.
みたいな。Like that.
なんていうの。What do you call it.
まあみんな知らないじゃん。Well, nobody knows it, right.
何トリック・オア・トリートみたいな。Like what, trick-or-treat or something.
まあまあだからあれ日本ではなんていうなんかあるよね。あWell well, so in Japan what do you call it, there's something, right. Ah.
あるよね。There is, right.
日本にもそういう似たようなやつがしてる。Japan has something similar like that too.
いやうちは箱田って棚田それがあるんだよね。No, in my place we have Hakoda, Tanada, that exists.
お菓子。Candy.
なんかねうちの町でもおおせたいっていうかなおせたいっていう言葉があってLike, in my town too there's a word, oosetai or osetai.
子供たちが家に行ってまあお菓子をもらうみたいなのはThere's something where kids go to houses and get candy or something.
あるからまあ例えば大井田だったらいやこれおせたいみたいな感じなのでって言えば多分分かってくれると思うけど。So, for example, if in Oida I said like, hey, this is osetai, they'd probably understand.
うんうん。Yeah, yeah.
その辺はないの千葉はその似たような祭りみたいな。Isn't there anything like that around there, in Chiba, like a similar festival.
いやだからお祭りはそのなんかみこし担ぐのがあるけどないなな。No, so for festivals there's like carrying a mikoshi, but no, there's nothing like that.
ないないないない。No no no no.
まあだからコンセプトをまず理解してもらうためにそうWell, so first to get them to understand the concept, yeah.
だからなんかさそのねなんかあの私英会話教室と近所でやっているものなんですけどとか言ってなんか怪しいじゃんSo like, you know, like saying I'm running an English conversation class in the neighborhood or something sounds suspicious, right?
怪しいSuspicious.
そうそれでRight, and then.
あの毎年ハロウィンをやっていてみたいななんか一発で意味が分かってくれないんだよねまあおじいちゃんおばあちゃんとか特にねそうそうだからもうLike, we do Halloween every year and stuff, they don't get what I mean right away, especially grandpas and grandmas, right, so so.
あのお菓子はこちらで用意するのでLike, we'll prepare the candy ourselves.
あの子供たちが来た時にもう本当三分くらいで終わることなんですけどお願いできませんかって言ってもあうちはちょっと忙しいんでみたいなうん。Like, when the kids come it's really only about three minutes, so could you please help us out, and they'd still say, oh we're a bit busy, like that. Yeah.
で結構最初はね断られて、なんか私営業向いてないからね、なんか無理やだなやだなって思って、And at first I got turned down a lot, and I'm not really cut out for sales, so I was like, I hate this, I hate this.
でも子供たちのために頑張って、そう最初は五件とかね、But I worked hard for the kids, yeah, at first it was like five houses.
でだんだん増えてって、今は大体And then it gradually increased, and now it's about.
こういろいろ今年は無理だけど来年とかね、なんかそういう感じで、Like, this year is impossible but next year, or something like that.
まあ予定があるからねみたいな、そうそうそう大体十二三件くらいでまあ十十Well, like we have plans, yeah yeah yeah, about twelve or thirteen houses, well ten, ten.
件毎年とかかみたいなHouses every year or something like that.
そういう感じ、なんか子供に子供に営業させた方がいいんじゃないの？Something like that, like, wouldn't it be better to have the kids do the sales pitch?
やっぱり一番上の子とかも話せるから十分ね。After all, even the oldest kid can talk well enough.
こんにちはみたいな感じで、あの言わせればいいんじゃないの？Like, have them say hello and stuff, wouldn't that be good?
子供が言うことだったら怪しくないしね。If it's kids saying it, it's not suspicious.
うんうん。Yeah yeah.
それかもうキミちゃんが子供の格好をして。Or you, Kimi-chan, could dress up as a kid.
こんにちはとか言って、それ怪しいだろ。And go hello or something, that would be suspicious.
それ警察に通報される案件。That's a case for calling the police.
なんでする？Why would you do that?
って。Like.
いや本当にね、なんかまあまあもうね営業はもうしなくていいんだけど、もうこれだけあるから十分で。No really, like, well well, I don't need to do sales anymore, this is enough.
うん。で、Yeah. And.
でもなんかその前日とかにお菓子を持ってくじゃん。But like the day before I bring the candy around, right.
うん。Yeah.
でもなんか都合が悪いからなんかその玄関のここに置いておいてくださいとかあるわけよ。But like, some say they're busy so just leave it here at the entrance.
おお。で、Oh. And.
でそれでいつもなんかやってるんだけどなんかあの今回はなんか怪しいと思われちゃって一件。And so I always do that, but this time one house thought I was suspicious.
なんかこう三ルームガラガラって言ってあのそこのね段ボールに入れておいてくださいっていうふうに言われてたからLike, they told me to go rattle-rattle and put it in the cardboard box there, so.
ガラガラって一人だけで入れたんだよね。I went in alone, rattle-rattle.
うん。Yeah.
でガラガラって閉めてでそしたら隣のおばおばちゃんがなんか洗濯物干しててちょっと何ですかみたいな。And I went rattle-rattle and closed it, and then the lady next door was hanging laundry and was like, what are you doing.
ああ。Ah.
言われ。You know, like I was told.
言われてであいや怪しいものじゃないんですみたいなI was told, like, no, it's not anything suspicious or anything like that
言ったな怪しいものじゃないって言った怪しいものだって言わない方がいいんじゃないのだってめっちゃ怪しいって思われてるって思ってI said it, I said it's not suspicious, wouldn't it be better not to say it's suspicious, because I think they're thinking it's super suspicious
なんか最初だってこんにちはって言って私Like at first, I said hello, I
ねこんにちはって言って通ってたんだよでもなんかそのあのお菓子置きましたってメールするのにちょっと立ち止まってカチャカチャやってたんでyou know, I said hello and was passing by, but then to send an email saying I left the sweets, I stopped for a bit and was fiddling around
そしたら怪しいと思われたみたいでThen I guess I was thought to be suspicious
あのねちょっと何ですかみたいなまあきみちゃんはまあUm, like, excuse me, what is it, well, Kimi-chan is, well
私Me
怪しくないでしょいやいやだから本当に怪しくない方に入るけどI'm not suspicious, right? No no, so you really fall into the not-suspicious category, but
でしょそれでも怪しまれるっていうことはそう俺とかまあいわゆる男の人はもう無理だねRight? Even so, if you're suspected, then guys like me, well, so-called men, have no chance
無理だやばいやばいうんうんうんいややっぱりねでもこれはリームアップでNo way, that's bad, yeah yeah yeah, but you know, this is with Ream Up and
いろんな詐欺とかなんか泥棒とかやっぱりテレビでね、やっぱりいつもいつも言ってるから、with all the scams and burglaries and stuff, you know, on TV, they're always always saying it,
まあ昔から泥棒はいたと思うけど最近テレビでやっぱりね、そういう気をつけてくださいっていうようなことを言ってるよね。Well, I think there have always been burglars, but lately on TV they're saying things like please be careful.
だから特に地方の人はまあ気をつけてるんだと思う。So especially people in rural areas are probably being careful.
なんか知らない人とかがこう家に来るっていうのはなんか気をつけた方がいいみたいなね。Like, if some stranger comes to your house, you should be careful or something.
そうそうそうそうそう。Right, right, right, right, right.
だからでもひどいなと思ったけど、So I thought that was terrible, but
まあたしかにでも怪しいものじゃありませんって言ったと、いやそれ言ってる私は怪しいなと思った。well, certainly, but when I said it's not anything suspicious, I thought, no, I sound suspicious saying that.
まあ怪しい人が言うからね、そういうこと。Well, suspicious people say that kind of thing.
怪しいものじゃ、そうだよね、怪しいものじゃありません。It's not suspicious, yeah, right, it's not anything suspicious.
いややっぱりね、子供連れで行かないとダメなんだ。No, you really have to go with kids.
そう、子供、俺もなんか子供と一緒に歩いてたらなんかそういうなんていうかな、怪しさはやっぱりこう感じられないよね、周りから見て。Yeah, kids, when I walk with my kids, people don't really sense that kind of suspiciousness, you know, from how others see it.
そのお父さんね、その、そう、その、まあ最近でもニュースあったな、なんか家族で泥棒やってたみたいな。That dad, you know, that, yeah, there was news recently, like a whole family was doing burglaries.
そう、家族みんなで泥棒やったみたいな、そういうニュースがあって、それはやばいなと思ったけど、Yeah, there was news like the whole family did burglaries together, and I thought that was terrible, but
まあ普通だったらさ、自分がなんか犯罪をするとしても子供と一緒には絶対したくないじゃんね。well normally, even if you were going to commit a crime, you definitely wouldn't want to do it with your kids, right?
うんうん。Yeah yeah.
まあ犯罪しないけど、でもやっぱり子供がいる人は安心できるじゃん、周りから見て。Well, I wouldn't commit crimes, but still, people with kids feel reassuring, from how others see it.
そのね。You know.
そうね。Yeah.
子供と、そう、赤ちゃん連れてったらいいんじゃない？With kids, yeah, why don't you bring a baby?
赤ちゃんを背中に背負ってさ。Carry a baby on your back.
やだよ、もったいない。No way, what a waste.
いやでも、もったいないもん、赤ちゃんじゃないもん。No, but it's a waste, it's not a baby anymore.
え、一人で何、なんかフーディーとか被って行ったの？Huh, did you go alone wearing like a hoodie or something?
わざわざ被ってないけど。I didn't deliberately wear one.
いや普通の格好していたつもりだったけどね、なんかそう怪しい怪しいと思われて。No, I thought I was dressed normally, but somehow I was seen as suspicious, suspicious.
ギャルっぽいファッションじゃなかった？Wasn't it like a gal-style fashion?
いや全然普通の普通の格好だったけど、まあまあまあね。で、No, totally normal, normal clothes, but well well well. And,
でもあのちゃんとね、ジャックランタンとかもね、カボチャも手に入って、結局。But you know, I properly got jack-o'-lanterns and pumpkins too, in the end.
へえ、そう、すごくなんかどこから？Oh, really, wow, from where?
カボチャ農家から？From a pumpkin farmer?
いやNo
なんか今回はあのなんかなんていうのかな、あの農家さんがやってる直営のThis time it was like, what do you call it, a directly-run place by farmers
なんかスーパーマーケットみたいな、ベジスーパーマーケットみたいな、そう野菜のなんかあるじゃん。like a supermarket, like a veggie supermarket, you know, there's those vegetable places.
え、そこ直売か、直売っていうね、直接販売する直売場、直売、うん、直売場Oh, direct sales, a direct sales place that sells directly, direct sales, yeah, a direct sales place
になんか売ってるっていう情報を聞いて行ったら本当にあって。I heard they were selling them there, so I went and they really had them.
そう今回は今回はそこで買ったんだけど、そう去年はねいただいたんだよね。Yeah, this time I bought them there, yeah, last year I got them given to me.
でもそう今年台風でダメだったみたい。But yeah, this year they were ruined by the typhoon apparently.
そうでも買えたからね。Yeah, but I was able to buy them.
そうギリギリでそう作ったの。Yeah, just in time, yeah, I made it.
やっぱりあれそそのきみちゃんたちのあの一番大きいイベントっていうのハロウィンなの？So, is Halloween your biggest event, Kimi and everyone?
クリスマスなの？Or is it Christmas?
まあハロウィン。Well, Halloween.
ハロウィンやうん大変さはハロウィンだよね。Halloween, yeah, Halloween is the toughest.
うん。Yeah.
うんでもまあクリスマスもまあ一応うんクリスマスパーティー。Yeah, but well, Christmas too, well, we do have a Christmas party.
そうそうやるけどハロウィン。Right, right, we do it, but Halloween.
本当はあれもやってたけどね何だっけあの春のさイースター。We actually used to do that too, what was it, that spring one, Easter.
イースター。Easter.
昔はイースターとかやってたけどやっぱり一回もやめるともう二度と戻れないね。We used to do Easter and stuff, but once you stop, you can never go back.
ちょっと大変だよねしかも春。It's a bit tough, and it's spring too.
そう大変。Yeah, it's tough.
あれあれね日本でまあクリスマスはなんかケーキ食べたりとかさ。Well, in Japan, for Christmas you eat cake and stuff.
でハロウィンも最近まあちょっとやったりとか、あとバレンタインか、And for Halloween lately you do a little something, and then there's Valentine's,
だけどイースターはあのあの時期が悪いよね。but Easter's timing is bad.
やっぱ春でちょっと忙しいじゃんなんか日本が。Spring is kind of a busy time in Japan, isn't it.
うんまあね。Yeah, well.
なんかこのこのハロウィンってこのこの時本当に何もないし、であのバレンタインも何もないじゃん。Like this Halloween time, there's really nothing going on, and Valentine's too, there's nothing.
でもなんかあれ三月だっけイースターって。But Easter is like in March, right?
うん。Yeah.
なんか入学とかそのLike school entrance and that
まあ卒業とかなんかまあ卒業はまあそうそうなんかそういうやっぱ三月四月って日本ではバタバタするじゃんね。Well, graduation and stuff, well yeah, March and April in Japan are hectic, right.
うんうん。Yeah yeah.
うんなんか子供のなんか制服買ったりとかなんかいろいろランドセル買ったりとかさ、Yeah, like buying kids' uniforms or buying randoseru backpacks and stuff,
なんか忙しいから多分そういうのもあって流行らないんじゃないかなと思うよね時期。you're busy, so I think that's probably part of why it doesn't catch on, the timing.
そうかねと思う。I think so.
まあでも節分と同じ時期だね。Well, but it's the same time as Setsubun.
いやだから節分も俺全然しない。あ、No, so I never do Setsubun at all. Ah,
そう。Right.
うん。Yeah.
うちするけどね。We do it at our house though.
まあでもしなくなると思うよ。Well, but I think you'll stop doing it.
子供がちょっと大きくなったら。Once the kids get a bit bigger.
え、一回も鬼役やったことないの、家で。Huh, you've never played the demon at home?
ううん、子供にさせた。No, I made the kid do it.
なんか鬼、鬼は、鬼は、え、嘘。Like the demon, demon, huh, no way.
子供にやる。Make the kid do it.
「鬼は外」って言ってて。Saying 'demons out'.
いや鬼の面みたいなですね。No, like the demon mask.
そうそうそうそう。Right, right, right, right.
豆についてるあのあれ子供に被せて俺が当てた。The one that comes with the beans, I put that on the kid and I threw at him.
ダメじゃん。That's bad.
そうお尻当てるとあれ。Yeah, hitting the butt with that.
あれが嫌。I hate that.
それはそれはダメじゃん。That's, that's bad.
なんだ。てっWhat. Tet-
ちゃんが鬼？chan is the demon?
いや普通は親が、お父さんが鬼役でしょ。あ、No, normally the parent, the dad plays the demon, right. Ah,
そうなの。Is that so.
そうだよ。That's right.
え。Huh?
いや、子供だってあの豆ぶつけられて喜んでたじゃんね。No, even the kids were happy getting hit with those beans, right?
いや、いや豆をぶつけんのか子供は楽しんで。No, no, do kids enjoy getting hit with beans?
いやいやいやいや。No no no no.
お父さんに、いやいやいや。To dad, no no no.
お父さんに豆をぶつけてキャキャキャみたいな。Like hitting dad with beans and giggling.
うん、うちの子供なんかそうぶつけられて喜んでるから、ちょっと将来があの心配になるよね。Yeah, my kid was happy getting hit like that, so it makes me a bit worried about his future.
なんかお尻に豆が当たってあーとか言って喜んでだからこいつさ将来が心配だなと思ったけどまあまあHe was happy saying like, ow, a bean hit my butt, so I thought, man, I'm worried about this kid's future, but well,
喜んでるんだったらいいかなと思って。I thought if he's happy then it's fine.
えーあそうそう。Oh, right, right.
いやもうねもう小学生いやでもでも一回ぐらいしかやってないよそれでもなんかコロナコロナの時だったと思うけど五歳ぐらいの時にNo, I mean, elementary schooler, no, but we've only done it like once, I think it was during COVID, when he was about five,
あれもう興味ないからね。He's not interested anymore now.
うん。Yeah.
そうか。I see.
あと豆とか落ちてたらネズミが出るからあのやめろっつって。Also, if beans are left lying around, mice will come out, so they told me to stop it.
夢ないね。That's so unmagical.
いやネズミいるじゃんいるじゃん最近結構。No, there are mice, there really are lately.
いやうん。Yeah, uh-huh.
近所めっちゃ歩いてたよこの前ネズミがちょろってってやばいあいつが家にきたらやばいと思って豆なんてもう投げらんない。One was running around the neighborhood the other day, scurrying by, and I thought it'd be terrible if that thing came into our house, so I can't throw beans anymore.
投げるんだったらもうネズミの毒の餌かなんかでこう豆まき毒まき。If I'm going to throw something, it'd be like mouse poison bait, scattering poison instead of beans.
いやでも結構楽しいけどね。But it's still pretty fun though.
なあだからきみちゃんはもうやっぱりそういうのが向いてるんだよねやっぱりSee, so Kimi-chan, you're just suited for that kind of thing,
子供のためにいろいろ作ったり準備したりしてこうイベントやってもう好きなんだよそういうのが本当に素晴らしい。Making and preparing all sorts of things for the kids and doing events, you just love that kind of thing, it's really wonderful.
いやいいと思う。No, I think that's great.
でもさ、私ほらいつもギリギリ型だからいつもギリギリにやるんだよね。But you know, I'm always a last-minute type, so I always do it at the last minute.
うん。Yeah.
そうもうちょっといつも前もってやってけばいいのに。I should really do it more in advance.
まあね。Well, yeah.
いつもギリギリになって、もうもう間に合わないとか毎回言ってすごい焦ってでも何とか間に合ってうまくいって。It's always last minute, I'm always saying it's not going to make it in time, panicking like crazy, but somehow it works out and goes well.
いやでもなんかなんかそのFacebookとかで写真とか見たことあるけどなんかケーキも大きいの作ったりさなんか結構すごいじゃんいつも。But I've seen photos on Facebook and stuff, you make big cakes and stuff, it's always pretty amazing.
うんまあ頑張ってるよ。Yeah, well, I'm trying my best.
うん。Yeah.
うんまあそのプロセスは分かんないけどそのバタバタはねでも結果だけを写真とかで見るとおおすげえな。Yeah, well, I don't know about the process, that rushing around, but just seeing the results in photos, it's like, wow, amazing.
そうね結果だけ見るとなんか素晴らしいことをしているけどねバタバタして。Right, if you only look at the results, it looks like I'm doing something wonderful, but I'm rushing around.
とってもものすごいバタバタして。Rushing around incredibly.
まあもうかなりかなり疲労してやってる。Well, I'm doing it totally exhausted.
えなんかさっき言おうとしたなんかあの。Hey, what was I about to say earlier, like,
もうやばいことがまた起きたってなんなの？あ、What was that terrible thing that happened again? Oh,
家のこと？About the house?
うん。Yeah.
家のことはね、なんかあのやっぱり白蟻除去やらなきゃいけなくなっちゃった。About the house, well, it looks like we're going to have to get termite removal done.
ううん。Uh-uh.
白蟻。Termites.
そう。Yeah.
なんかうちにはいないけど、うちのなんか庭の木のところがやられてて。There aren't any in our house, but the tree in our yard got eaten.
あの大きい木だよね。That big tree, right?
大きい木、いや、うん、なんかね、あの木材みたいなのをロブがポンポンって置いてたんだよね。The big tree, yeah, well, Rob had placed some lumber-like pieces, plop plop.
うん。Yeah.
そこの一個が白蟻にモロやられてて。で、One of them got totally eaten by termites. And,
で、それ、それでなんかそのなんで木でできたテーブルとかもなんかもう食べられててね。And because of that, the wooden table and stuff also got eaten.
外にある。It's outside.
外の。The outside one.
そうそうそうそうそうそう。Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
で。And.
いやこれこんな食べられてたらヤバいんじゃん。No, if it's being eaten like this, that's bad.
家も食べに来るだろ。They'd come to eat the house too.
そう家に家も食べに来る。Yeah, they'd come to eat the house too.
せっかくリフォームしたのに食べられたら元も子もないじゃん。We just renovated it, so if it gets eaten, it's all for nothing.
うん。Yeah.
そうだからお願い駆除お願いしますみたいなじゃなくてスプレーお願いしますみたいな感じでいや高いんだ。So, not like, please exterminate them, but more like, please spray, and no, it's expensive.
じゃあだってお願いしますってそれなん。Well, I mean, please do it, like what is that.
もうもうもう泣く泣くもうもう予算ないのにと思いつつあSo reluctantly, like, even though we have no budget, like, ah,
そのなんかThat, like,
探したの自分でI looked for it myself.
いやもう一回ねなんか見てもらったの大丈夫かどうかってそのインスペクターみたいなそうそうそう調査の人No, I had someone take another look, to see if it was okay, like an inspector, yeah yeah yeah, like a survey person.
そうで調べてもらって一応家にはシロアリいませんよって言われたからYeah, and they checked and said, well, your house doesn't have termites, so,
じゃあちょっとお金もないからいいかって思ってSo I thought, well, we're short on money, so let's skip it,
なしっていう話で進めてたんだけど。And we were moving forward with the plan of not doing it.
そうダメでダメってダメっていうかちょっとやっておいた方がやっぱいいだろうってなって、だからそれも来るでしょ。Yeah, but no, it's no good, well, not no good, but we decided we'd better do it after all, so that's coming too.
あとなんかAnd also, like,
ちょっとね台風とかが多かったせいかわかんないけど、I'm not sure if it's because there were a lot of typhoons or what, but,
ある部分が木がね家の下のところが腐食しててちょっと腐ってたね木が。In one part, the wood, the wood under the house was corroded, a bit rotted.
がそれもやばいじゃん。That's bad too, right.
えだからそこをはいなんか取って張り替えてとかって言うのもなんかやって、So, like, removing that part and replacing it, we did stuff like that too,
もうもうだからねなんだろうねうんまあそれも台風とかもありつつあとなんか素人がね旦那が勝手にSo, so, I don't know, well, partly typhoons, and also, like, an amateur, my husband just did it on his own,
所詮素人もそんなさ日本の家のプロじゃないからAfter all, an amateur isn't exactly a pro at Japanese houses, so,
やっぱりなんかやっぱ微妙なところでなんか分かってないんだよね分かってないで進めてるから。You know, there are subtle things he just doesn't get, he's moving ahead without understanding.
いろいろなんか不具合が起きて、何日もかけてやったことをもう一回やり直さなきゃいけなくなったりとかしてるの今、わかる。めSo all kinds of problems are happening, and things that took days to do now have to be redone, you know, I get it, so,
っちゃめっちゃそうでそれでわあそっかみたいな感じで、そうやばいよね。Really, really, yeah, and then it's like, oh, I see, yeah, it's bad.
12月で終わるのか。Will it be finished by December?
果たして。Who knows.
果たして皆さんどう思いますか。What do you all think?
それとも12月にホームレスになってしまうのか。Or will we end up homeless in December?
ホームレスにはならないと思うけど、そういやもうね、いや大丈夫と信じるしかないよね。I don't think we'll be homeless, but yeah, I mean, we just have to believe it'll be okay.
信じる。Believe.
信じる。Believe.
いやいやなんかイメージ大事だよね。No, no, like, imagery is important, right.
もう終わる終わるって思っておくと大丈夫じゃん。If you keep thinking it'll be done, it'll be done, it'll be fine.
まあそれはまあその、まあね、そういう気持ちがね。Well, that's, well, you know, that kind of feeling.
でも実際働いてる二人をちょっと。But actually, the two people working, like...
いやお前一人じゃないんだよもうもう今ロブしあロブし言ってたまあまあ今ねえっと今もう旦那さんしかいないからさああそっかそっか一人でやってるのNo, you're not alone, well, Rob, uh, Rob, well, right now, right now there's only my husband, so, oh, I see, he's doing it alone,
一人でやっててでもなんか土曜日と土曜日一日だけあのHe's doing it alone, but like, on Saturday, just for one Saturday,
なんかシリア人とフィリピン人の二人の人が手伝いに来てくれてLike, a Syrian guy and a Filipino guy came to help,
まあやっぱりあれか外国人の友達が多いんだよねWell, I guess he has a lot of foreign friends,
そのそうそうそう日本の大工さんの友達とかはいないよねいや日本の大工さんまじでYeah, yeah, yeah, he doesn't have Japanese carpenter friends, no, Japanese carpenters, seriously,
お給お給料もちろん換算したらあのダブルですからねまあねちょっとさすがにTheir pay, of course, converted, it's double, you know, well, yeah, that's a bit...
ああさすがに払えないねうん。Ah, yeah, we definitely can't pay that, yeah.
さすがにっていうかもうここまで来てちょっと厳しい。Definitely, or rather, at this point it's just tough.
でもでももうそれだったらもう最初から大工さんに全部頼んでおいた方が良かったんじゃないのかなと。But, but, if that's the case, wouldn't it have been better to just ask carpenters to do everything from the start?
思ったりもするけどそんなことを考えてはいけない。I sometimes think that, but I mustn't think such things.
あと自分でやりたいっていうのもあるだろうしね。Plus, I guess there's also the part where you want to do it yourself.
まあ本当にあのいいYouTubeのネタになったけどまあまあWell, it really did make for good YouTube material, but well, well
なんかあのあの日本中でさ田舎に空き家を買って自分であのDIYとかいるじゃんそういう人。はいはいLike, you know, all over Japan, people buying empty houses in the countryside and doing DIY themselves, you know those people. Yeah yeah
いるね。There are, right.
であれ多分まあうまくいってるケースをアップロードしてるけどなんかこう大変なケースもたくさんあるんだよね実際はね。And with that, they're probably uploading the successful cases, but actually there are lots of tough cases too.
大変。It's tough.
で俺も絶対なんかあると思うけどあのまずさあのやっぱりこう気候が違うその天気が違うからAnd I'm sure there's definitely something for me too, but first of all, the climate is different, the weather is different, so
なんか。Like.
例えばスペインとかカリフォルニアみたいなそういうなんか乾燥したところじゃないからね日本はFor example, Japan isn't like Spain or California, those dry places
雨が降る雪が降る夏は暑いし雨もなんかめちゃめちゃ降るとか湿気があるとか台風も来る地震もあるIt rains, it snows, summers are hot and it rains like crazy, there's humidity, typhoons come, there are earthquakes
でそれでやっぱりこう見えないところねそのAnd so, you know, the parts you can't see, like
まあ壁とかあの床とかの下とかなんか屋根裏とか見えないでしょ見えないWell, under the walls or the floor, or like in the attic, you can't see, right? You can't see
そうでさそれ私もさ日本人だけどそんなのわかんないじゃんわかんないその床の下なんてあれAnd like, I'm Japanese too, but I wouldn't know that stuff, right? I wouldn't know, like what's under the floor
入れないしね普通の人はAn ordinary person can't even get in there
でもね普通の人に入ってもらってねそうそうそうBut you have an ordinary person go in, right, yeah yeah yeah
でなんかさ私がやれとか言われて最初シロアリ スプレーいや無理だからみたいな本当And like, when I was told to do it, at first termite spray, no way, like that's impossible, really
にもう無理だ入れないやだ入れないよねあの奥まででいや。It's just impossible, I can't go in, I don't want to go in, right? All the way to the back, no.
いや、ぶっちゃけ、やろうと思ったら、だって大人の男の人が入ってやってるから、私は物理的にはできるけど、いや無理だ。Well, honestly, if I tried, I mean, grown men go in and do it, so physically I could do it, but no, impossible.
いや物理的にはできてもできないことって死ぬほどあるよ。No, there are a ton of things that you physically could do but still can't do.
めちゃめちゃ多い。So many.
それは。That's just how it is.
いや本当に無理だからごめんなさいみたいな。No, that's really impossible, so sorry, like that.
そう。Right.
そう。Right.
それだけは本当に無理とか。That one is really just impossible, like.
それ、それ例えばあの屋根に登ってあのね屋根の修理だって物理的にはできるだろうけど怖くてできないよね普通は。That, for example, climbing up on the roof to repair the roof, physically you probably could do it, but normally you're too scared to do it, right?
そうそうそうそうそうそうなんだよ。Yes yes yes yes yes yes, that's exactly it.
でなんかあの屋根、屋根違うな、屋根の面に沿ったところにAnd like, on the roof, no, not the roof, along the surface of the roof
あの断熱材を一回敷いてでその上に木、そうそうその上に木をやってI thought it would be good to lay insulation once, and then put wood on top of that, yeah yeah, put wood on top of that
っていう風にやったらいいんじゃないかっていう風に思ってやってたのね。And I was doing it thinking that would be good.
うん。Yeah.
でもなんかあのなんかブルーボードっていう断熱材みたいななんかこう発泡スチロールみたいななんかわかるかな？But like, there's something called blue board, like insulation, like styrofoam-like, you know what I mean?
そうYeah
ああいうのを本当は屋根裏に入れるんだけどなんかもう在庫がなくてなんかお店お店でもう売り切れにYou're supposed to put that kind in the attic, but they were out of stock, like the store, the store sold out
なっちゃってなんか今その今年に入ってやっぱりその戦争とかの影響でそういういろいろなあの建築And now, since this year, because of the war and stuff, various building
材っていうのそのそうそうそうそう売り切れが多いらしいよねそうペンキとかそういうので実際はあるらしいけど大きい会社がMaterials, like that, yeah yeah yeah yeah, apparently a lot of things are sold out, like paint and stuff, apparently they actually exist, but big companies
あのなんかもう買ってLike already bought them
もう貯めとくっていうかAnd stockpiled them, like
なんかもしもの時のために取ってるらしいよ。Apparently they're holding onto them just in case.
まあだから普通買えなくなった普通のそう素人にはなかなか買えない感じになっててSo ordinary people can't buy them anymore, it's become hard for amateurs to buy them
でそれでなんかあの壁に入れるワタみたいなわかるあれをでもでもあれアスベストじゃないよね違うやつ違う違う違う違うAnd so, like, the cotton-like stuff you put in walls, you know, but but that's not asbestos, right? It's different, different different different different
壁に入れるワタっていうとおいおい大丈夫かよみたいな大丈夫ででそそれをじゃあ屋根屋根にって言ってやったんだよねWhen you say cotton to put in walls, it's like, hey hey, is that okay? It's okay, and so, we did that for the roof, for the roof
でも結局ダメだったのなんかそこをやってでそこ天井もあるところだったのね天井うち半分だけ抜いたわけよ。But it ended up not working, we did that there, and there was a ceiling there too, we took out only half of the ceiling in our house.
わかるかな。Do you get what I mean?
え、リスナーさんじゃ多分わかんないと思う。Eh, listeners probably won't get it.
大丈夫かな。I wonder if it's okay.
その要は屋根って三角になってるんだけどうち、Basically, the roof is triangular, in our house,
で半分のリビングルームのところだけそのAnd only the living room half, that
平らになっている天井を抜いて、キッチンの方は天井がある状態にしている。We removed the flat ceiling, and left the ceiling in place on the kitchen side.
キッチンっていうか他の部屋はね。Well, the kitchen, or rather the other rooms.
なんかちょっとレストランっぽいというか。It's kind of like a restaurant, in a way.
そうそうそう。Yeah, yeah, yeah.
でだからなんかちょっとロフトみたいな感じになってるわけよ。So it's kind of like a loft.
でそのロフトみたいになってるところはAnd that loft-like area
本当は下だけ断熱材を入れて上の壁のところに断熱材を入れちゃうとOriginally you're only supposed to put insulation below, and if you put insulation on the upper walls
なんかそのダブルでなんかその空間が熱くなっちゃって湿気が出て要はカビが発生するんだって。The space gets hot in a double way and moisture builds up, basically mold grows.
っていうのを知らなくて断熱材入れれば入れるNot knowing that, I thought the more insulation the better
ほど断熱効果があっていいだろうって思ってやっちゃったんだよね。for insulation effect, so I just did it.
そしたら結局カビが発生するっていうことになって、それは取ったんだ。Then in the end mold grew, so I removed it.
全部取ってでそうだから貴重な断熱材もさ捨てなきゃいけないじゃん。I removed it all, so I had to throw away that precious insulation.
それでうわみたいな、そう結構厳しいよね。And it's like, wow, yeah, it's pretty tough.
いやだからこのなんていうのその時のことだけを考えるじゃんね俺たちは素人はNo, so like, we amateurs only think about that moment, you know
でもやっぱりその大工さんとかはあそれだとカビが生えますよとかBut a carpenter would be like, oh, that'll grow mold, or
あのねやっぱりそうその一年間で考えてまあ夏は大丈夫でしょうけど冬You know, thinking over a year, well summer will be fine but in winter
になったらカビ生えますよとかやっぱそういうの。it'll grow mold, you know, that kind of thing.
ね、やっぱり夏これ冬と夏その暑さと寒さとかで考えないといけないから難しいよね。Right, you have to think about winter and summer, the heat and cold, so it's difficult.
なんかそうLike, yeah
ずっと冬だったらまあまあ暖かい方がいいけどIf it were always winter, warmer would be better, but
そんなに閉じちゃったらねその夏の湿気がこうこもっちゃってIf you seal it up that much, the summer humidity gets trapped
っていうかといって夏に合わせると冬は寒い家になっちゃうし、But then if you design for summer, it becomes a cold house in winter,
このこの家ねこの家あのカビの問題があんまりない。This house, this house doesn't really have a mold problem.
なぜかというとめっちゃ風が通るからだから夏はいいけどでも冬が寒すぎてBecause there's so much airflow, so summer is fine, but winter is too cold
でも冬に合わせて例えばねその気密性を高めたらBut if you, say, increased airtightness for winter
今度はカビの問題が出てくるからやっぱりこカビねカビがちょっとそう日本はカビがね大変だよねThen you'd get mold problems, so yeah, mold, mold is tough in Japan
特にキミちゃんねそこやっぱり海の近くだからそうなんだよEspecially for you, Kimi, since you're near the sea, that's why
多いんだよまた別の問題だよね海の近くっていう。There's a lot, it's a separate problem, being near the sea.
そうだからでなんかやっぱり旦那さんもなんかあれなんだよねなんかなんていうの日本の大工さんのこと信じてないのSo, and like, your husband doesn't trust Japanese carpenters or something
わかるなんかもう素直にこうこうI get it, like, just straightforwardly like this
ねこういう風にやったらいいよとかっていうのをLike, if you do it this way it'll be good, or
なんか日本日本はこういうこうだからこういうふうにやった方がいいんですよとかっていうのを例えばアドバイスを聞いてそれに沿って自分がLike, Japan is like this so you should do it this way, for example, listening to that advice and following it yourself
やるとかねto do it, you know
そうそういうアドバイスだけをせめてもらえばよかったのになんかこう日本の大工は適当にやるから信じられないみたいなわかるHe should have at least just gotten that advice, but like, Japanese carpenters do sloppy work so he can't trust them, you know
なんていうのWhat do you call it
もう面倒くさがり屋でなんかそう適当なことをやるから。They're lazy and do sloppy work.
だから俺がやるみたいな感じで言ってるわけよ。So he's like, I'll do it myself.
そうだからででま確かにそう思わせるようなそう部分もあるんだよね。So, and well, there are certainly parts that make you think that.
あるけどある正しい部分もあるだろうし。There are, but there's probably some truth to it too.
そうそう正しい知識として最低限は持ってるはずじゃん。Yeah, yeah, they should have the minimum correct knowledge.
普通の大工さんね。A normal carpenter, you know.
そうだからその辺のバランスを取ってやってかないとね失敗するよねっていうね。So you have to balance that out or you'll fail, you know.
いやだからでも難しいねやっぱりあのまあそのNo, but it's difficult, after all, well
まあ大工さんたちじゃなくて不動産とかもそうだけどやっぱり基本的に仕事のためにやってるじゃん。Well, not just carpenters but real estate agents too, basically they're doing it for work.
だからまあちょっとの嘘はつくじゃんねその仕事を売るために。でSo they'll tell a little lie to sell the job. And
でももちろん嘘を言わないあの例えばそうカビとかの問題って多分のちのち問題になるとBut of course, things like mold problems will become a problem later
その不動産とか大工さんにとっても問題だからそういうのは多分正直に言うだろうし。and that would be a problem for the real estate agent or carpenter too, so they'd probably be honest about that.
うん。Yeah.
うん。Yeah.
でもでも基本的に多分日本の家の考え方をBut basically, the Japanese way of thinking about houses is probably
強くするだけじゃなくてその軽くとかそのやっぱカビの問題も考えてやりすぎないようにやるっていうのがあってnot just to make it stronger, but to keep it light and also think about mold and not overdo it
まあ地震の問題もあるからねカビとか地震ね。Well, there's the earthquake issue too, mold and earthquakes.
うんだから例えばまあまあWell, so for example, like,
そのスペインとかもそうだけど結構家を強く動かないように作ってSpain and places like that, they build houses really solid so they don't move,
確かに強いけど地震があったら揺れないから逆に危ないだろうなとかSure it's strong, but if there's an earthquake it doesn't shake, so that would actually be dangerous, you know.
そうだから日本の家ってなんなんかSo that's why Japanese houses, like, what are they,
弱く見えるじゃんね骨組みっていうその木を見るとでもあれっていろんな理由でthey look weak, right, when you look at the framing, the wood, but for various reasons
ちゃんと揺れてあの壊れないようにしてるっていうかそのこの家だって本当にthey're properly made to sway and not break, like even this house really
こんなんで大丈夫なのみたいな木を使ってるけどやっぱり地震があるとね。it's using wood that makes you think, is this really okay? But with earthquakes, you know.
だからこれだから倒れないんだなと、このこの軽さがあるからね。So that's why it doesn't fall down, because of this, this lightness, you know.
なんかこうテントみたいな、なんていう、そんな軽い。Like kind of like a tent, how do I say, that light.
本当、本当もしこれがなんかそのめっちゃ重い素材で作られてたら壊れるんだろうなと思って。Really, really, if this were made of some super heavy material, I think it would break.
結構あるじゃん、その近所にもあると思うけど、めっちゃボロボロの家で地震今までなんか全部サバイブしてるみたいな。You see them around, right, like in the neighborhood too, there's like a super run-down old house that's somehow survived every earthquake so far.
うん。Yeah.
いやなんか日本の家は絶対あの組んでなきゃいけないんだよね、木と木が。No, like Japanese houses absolutely have to be joined together, wood to wood.
わかる？You know what I mean?
組む、そうそうそうそうそう、組むね。な、Joinery, right right right right, joinery. Like,
なんて説明したら、その木と木がデコボコみたいになってるってことね。How do I explain it, like the pieces of wood are shaped to fit together like puzzle pieces.
そうだから穴が開いてそこに木が入る、そうそう、必ずSo there's a hole cut and the wood goes in there, yeah yeah, always
切ってその木を木に入れるっていうことね、木に木を入れてやる、だからただ釘でカンカンカンって打ってyou cut it and fit wood into wood, you put wood into wood, so it's not just like banging nails in kan-kan-kan
こうなんかつなげるっていう感じではないわけよ。で、to just connect them like that. And,
でもなんかそのね、あの私の知り合いの人がBut like, you know, someone I know
なんか、いや実はねみたいな、うちの近所にフィリピン人の男性と日本人の女性暮らしてて、was like, actually, you know, near my place there's a Filipino man and a Japanese woman living together,
でなんかそのフィリピンでは自分で家を作るのが当たり前らしくand apparently in the Philippines it's normal to build your own house,
ね、right,
でその人はね自分で材料買ってもうベースメントからってね、もうベースから作ったんだって、うちと違うリフォームじゃなくてand that guy bought the materials himself and from the basement, like, from the foundation up he built it, unlike our place it's not a remodel
一から家を建てて、でそのフィリピンスタイルで要は組まないで家を作っちゃったんだって、で。he built a house from scratch, and he built it Filipino-style, meaning without joinery, and.
そしたらやっぱりその日本の建築法っていうね法律に引っかかるThen of course it violated Japanese building law, you know, the law
から、そう市役所からこれ壊してくださいって言われてるんだって。so, yeah, the city hall told him to tear it down.
ええ。Wow.
そう危ないから。Yeah, because it's dangerous.
うん。Yeah.
そう地震が来たら倒壊しますよみたいな。Like, if an earthquake comes it'll collapse.
うんうん。Yeah yeah.
そうだ。Right.
で、それってすごいもうさんねすごい時間かけて自分でね作ったのに、And, that took him so much time to build himself,
だからやっぱりそのso that's why, you know,
多分フィリピンだったら地震とかねそんなわかんないけど壊れない作り方だったんだと思うんだけど、Probably in the Philippines with earthquakes and stuff, I don't know, it was a way of building that wouldn't collapse, I think, but,
日本ではまあダメっていうことよね。in Japan it's just not allowed, you know.
まあこれがまあだからでもまあ実際フィリピンも地震が多いから、まあまあWell, but actually the Philippines has a lot of earthquakes too, so well,
実際壊れるか壊れないかはわかんないけど、まあとりあえずまあやっぱり国によってその法律が違うから。I don't actually know if it would collapse or not, but anyway, the laws are different by country so.
そうそうそうそう。Right right right right.
あの日本の法律ではできないあの建築の方法っていうのあるだろうね。There are building methods that aren't allowed under Japanese law.
うんうんでもそういうのはYeah yeah, but that kind of thing
まあwell
なんかユーチューブとかでもなんかみんなまあでもあれは空き家でほとんどリフォームかリフォームの場合はもう少し自由なのかなちょっとわかんないけどlike on YouTube too, everyone, well but those are empty houses and mostly remodels, maybe remodels have a bit more freedom, I'm not really sure but
まあリフォームはね組みはさ大工さんがもともとやってるから組んであるwell with a remodel, the joinery was already done originally by a carpenter, so it's already joined
ででもそれ聞いてちょっとうち大丈夫かなって思っちゃってえこれこれ大丈夫なのみたいな自分で自分で言って気がついたな今but hearing that made me think, is our place okay? Like, is this, is this okay? I just realized it as I said it myself
そうそうそういやいやねそうそうでこれRight right right, no no, right right, and this
うち人のこと言えなくてうちはうちもダメって言われたらどうするのみたいなやっぱりやっぱり大工さんのちょっとwe can't talk about others, what if they tell us ours is no good too, like we should probably get
あのまあ信じる信じないとかじゃなくてまあ法律的なあのyou know, not about trusting or not trusting the carpenter, but like legal
あのアドバイスを受けた方が良さそうだよね。like we should probably get that kind of advice.
そうYeah,
なんかさ、だから聞いたlike, so that's why I asked,
んだよ、私ね、この絶対抜いちゃいけない木っていうのはどれとどれですかとかね、you know, like, which trees are the ones I absolutely must not cut down, and stuff like that,
見てもらったりとかもしたんだけど、なんか結局なんかちょっと変えてんだよね。I had them take a look and stuff, but somehow they ended up changing it a bit.
わかる、なんかちょっと変えてて、え、これ大丈夫なのって私ちょっと不安なんだよ。You know, it's changed a bit, and I'm like, wait, is this okay? I'm a bit worried.
彼がね、そうそうそうそうそうで、いやこれは弱くなってない、むしろ強くなってるから大丈夫だとかって言ってるんだけど、そういう話じゃないっていうことです。And he was like, yeah yeah yeah yeah, no, this hasn't gotten weaker, it's actually gotten stronger so it's fine, but that's not the point.
そうなんか、いやそれ本当みたいな、そこなんだよな、なんかその強くすればいいみたいな考えがやっぱりそういう話じゃないよね、多分。Yeah, like, no, is that really true? That's the thing, that idea that just making it stronger is fine — that's not the point, probably.
そうそう、だからだから法令に従って、そのなんかそこなんだよな、本当に。Right, right, so that's why, follow the regulations, like, that's the thing, really.
そう大丈夫なのみたいな、私の家。Like, is it okay? My house.
ね、ものすごいものすごい不安になってきたけど。Yeah, I'm getting incredibly, incredibly anxious.
いや、キミちゃんの話を聞いてなんか、俺の月曜日の朝のこの憂鬱な洗濯を干すみたいなのがもうちっぽけなことに思えてきて良かったです。No, listening to you, Kimi-chan, my gloomy Monday morning hanging the laundry feels like such a trivial thing now, so that's good.
ありがと。Thank you.
そうでしょう。Right?
そうでしょう。Right?
いや、家はあるし。No, I have a house.
うん、ありがたいよね。Yeah, I'm grateful.
あのなんかハロウィンの片付けもないし。Like, there's no Halloween cleanup to do.
うん。Yeah.
あの山のような服もないし。And there's no mountain of clothes.
そう、でも片付いたんでしょ。But, yours is all cleaned up, right?
片付いてる。It's cleaned up.
最高じゃん。That's great.
二杯目のコーヒー飲んだからこのあと散歩でもしようかなみたいに思ってるんだけど。I had my second cup of coffee, so I was thinking I might go for a walk after this.
うん、いいじゃん。Yeah, that's nice.
もう何が何が悪いことあったのって感じだよ。It's like, what bad thing could there possibly be?
いや、本当にもうキミちゃんと話すと最高だわ。No, really, talking with you, Kimi-chan, is the best.
やっぱり自分がなんかどれぐらいこう楽な生活をしているか。It really makes me realize how easy a life I'm living.
そうですよ。Exactly.
そうなので、あの、皆さんの中でも問題を、問題、小さい問題で悩んでいる人はキミちゃんと話して、あ、私の問題なんて小さいんだなと、So, for everyone out there worrying about a problem, a small problem, talk with Kimi-chan and think, ah, my problem is so small,
あの、そういうあのトリートメントやってますんで。you know, I'm offering that kind of treatment.
トリートメント。Treatment.
そうそうそう。Yes, yes, yes.
これ新しいカウンセラーのスタイルだと思うよ、キミちゃん。I think this is a new style of counseling, Kimi-chan.
あの、普通なんかカウンセラーってWell, normally counselors are like,
なんか、私はあの問題がない、成功してるで、あの、患者さんに悩みは何ですかみたいな感じじゃん。like, I have no problems, I'm successful, and it's like, so what's troubling you, patient?
でもキミちゃんは、悩みは何ですか、あ、あなたの悩みは大したことない、私はもっと大きい悩みがありますという新しいスタイルのカウンセリング。But Kimi-chan's like, what are your worries? Ah, your worries are nothing, I have much bigger worries — a new style of counseling.
最高じゃん。That's the best.
え、でもね、本当に気持ちが楽になったの。But, you know, I really did feel better.
なった、なった。I did, I did.
本当、本当。Really, really.
いや良かったね。Well, that's good.
これなんかもっと大変な人はいるんだなと。Like, there are people who have it much harder.
うんうん。Yeah, yeah.
いやでもね、私はこうででも今日朝何回も私幸せだなって思ったよ。But you know, even so, this morning I thought over and over how happy I am.
そのなんか今の話を聞いてどういうコンテクストでその今日の朝幸せだなと思ったの？Hearing that story now, in what context did you think this morning that you're happy?
いや私どういういやいやでも私毎日幸せだなって思って目覚めるからわかるそういう風にしてるの。No, what do you mean, no, but I wake up thinking I'm happy every day, you know, I make it like that.
よく分からないな。I don't really get it.
朝のMorning's
朝の朝のルーティンとして私はそうだからやっぱり辛いことがありすぎるでしょ私の人生。As a morning routine, that's how I am, because there are just too many painful things in my life, right?
なのでなのでまあもうこれも訓練、苦行ですよ。So, so, this is also training, ascetic practice.
そうだけどね。Yeah, that's true though.
いやででも今なんだかんだ家がリフォーム大変だけど友達のね家にこんなね。No, but well, all things considered, renovating the house is tough, but I'm staying at a friend's house like this.
確かに。Exactly.
住まわせてもらってて本当にありがたいなとか思ったり。I'm being allowed to live here and I'm really grateful.
そう今日は天気がねまあ雨降るかもしれないけど。So today the weather, well, it might rain.
うん。Yeah.
なんか天気が良くて。But the weather is nice.
まあ朝良かったよね。Well, the morning was nice.
そうそうそうそうなんか気持ちいいなとかね。Yeah yeah yeah yeah, like it feels good.
うん。Yeah.
そうで子供も元気で夫も元気でね。Yeah, and the kids are healthy and my husband is healthy too.
そう朝ご飯食べてなんかおいしくてはい幸せだなとかね。Yeah, I had breakfast and it was delicious, like, ah, I'm happy.
大体三つくらいは考えるようにしてるよ。I try to think of about three things like that.
なんかなんていう。Like, how should I put it.
偉い。That's admirable.
なんかもう年寄りって感じがするな。Like, I feel like an old person already.
いやおばちゃんっぽいな。No, that's so auntie-like.
いや素晴らしい素晴らしい本当に悟りの境地それは。No, wonderful, wonderful, that's truly a state of enlightenment.
そうでしょう。Right?
そう普通四十代では言えないよまだそんなこと。Yeah, normally people in their forties can't say that yet.
あなんかうちのおばあちゃんとかが言うよねそういうこと。Ah, like my grandma would say that kind of thing.
九十ぐらいになると言い始めるよねそういうこと。When you get to like ninety, you start saying that kind of thing.
朝起きてお天道さまがあって。Wake up in the morning and the sun is out.
あの朝ごはん食べてみんな家族孫も元気で幸せ幸せみたいなEat breakfast, everyone, family and grandkids are healthy, happy happy, like that.
そうだよみんな思ったごてっちゃんだって幸せじゃんねThat's right, everyone, Tecchan, you're happy too, right?
可愛い奥さんと可愛い息子と元気に仕事と学校行ってうんてっちゃんはWith your cute wife and cute son, going to work and school in good health, and Tecchan,
仕事家でだよ好きな時に仕事できて散歩も行けてねyou work from home, you can work whenever you like and go for walks.
ポッドキャストで自分の言いたいこと喋ってTalking about what you want on the podcast.
ちょっと待てよまあまあそうだよねそうだよそうそうでしょストレさんストレWait a minute, well, yeah, that's right, yeah, right, Stre-san, Stre-
さんもうだってそうストレス発散してなんて幸せな人生なんだとねまあね思ってくださいうんはい閉めましたsan, you're relieving stress too, so please think what a happy life it is. Well, okay, I'm done.
素晴らしいきみちゃんやばいね皆さんも皆さんも今日一日いいでありますよ自分が小さく感じるWonderful, Kimi-chan is amazing. Everyone, everyone, have a good day. I feel so small.
白蟻みたいに。Like a termite.
本当にシロアリてっちゃう。Really, Tecchan the termite.
キミちゃんにスプレーで駆除されました今。I just got exterminated by Kimi-chan with spray.
心のシロアリが。The termites of the heart.
浄化でよ浄化です。It's purification, purification.
浄化駆除浄化って怖い言葉ですね。Purification extermination, purification is a scary word.
いや最近そのパージっていうあのホラー映画見たからそれ浄化っていう意味で使ってんだけど。No, I recently watched that horror movie called The Purge, so I'm using it in the sense of purification.
浄化済みの。Purified.
お前をお前を浄化する。I will purify you.
まあまあまあ。はいはいWell well well. Yes yes.
ありがとう。Thank you.
はいキミちゃん皆さんまた今度。Yes, Kimi-chan, everyone, see you next time.
皆さんありがとう。Thank you, everyone.
はいさよなら。Yes, goodbye.