ねえ、俺は。Hey, I am...
ハンガーゲッティ君？Hungry Getty-kun?
君！You!
一、二、三。One, two, three.
君ちゃん。Kimi-chan.
テッちゃん。Tet-chan.
おはよう。Good morning.
おはようちえん。Good morning-kindergarten.
全くだらない。Totally stupid.
なんだ？What?
幼稚園。Kindergarten.
なんだあの保育園に保育園だよね子供。What was that nursery school, it's a nursery school, right, kids.
うん。Yeah.
保育園に行って先生に先生おはようちえん。Go to nursery school and say to the teacher, teacher, good morning-kindergarten.
あ保育園でした。Oh, it was a nursery school.
って言って。Saying that.
いやそれきついわ。No, that's harsh.
お母さんインフルエンザですか？Is your mom down with the flu?
いやちょっと多分素で引かれると思う。No, I think they'd seriously be put off.
うんちょっと無理ごめん言えないまあやっぱり厳しいね世界はYeah, a bit impossible, sorry, can't say it. Well, the world is tough after all.
社会はいや厳しいと思うよ厳しい親父ギャグに対してはねSociety, no, I think it's tough. Tough on dad jokes, you know.
親父Dad...
いや親父はおはようちえんとか言わないんじゃないのNo, dads wouldn't say like 'good morning-kindergarten,' would they?
いや言う言うむしろ親父が言うよねあそうなのじゃあやっぱり親父か俺もNo, they do, they do. Rather, it's dads who say it. Oh really? Then I guess I'm a dad too.
いやそうだよねあそうなのうんでしょうえでも20年ぐらい前から25年ぐらい前から変わってないけどねNo, that's right. Oh really? And yet, it hasn't changed for like 20 years, 25 years.
うんね言ってたよね若い時もこんな感じでうんまあ言ってたけど親父ギャグの枠だよね。Yeah, you were saying it. You were like this when you were young too. Yeah, well, I was saying it, but it's in the dad-joke category.
このこういうのが、This kind of thing,
こういうの、こういうのが全部、そう、そう、そうでしょ。This kind of thing, all of this kind of thing, right, right, right.
まあね。Well, yeah.
そうだよ。That's right.
うん。Yeah.
まあまあまあね。Well, well, well.
まあまあまあまあまあ。Well, well, well, well, well.
さっきもね、キミちゃんもちょっとちょっと待ってって時にちょっとマッチって送ったんだけど、あ、見てなかった。Just now too, when Kimi-chan said wait a sec, I sent 'chotto match' [wait a match], but, oh, you didn't see it.
見てない。Didn't see it.
見てない。Didn't see it.
見てない。Didn't see it.
見てない。Didn't see it.
マッチって送ったし、送った後ね、それトイレにいたんだけど、ちょっとマッチって送っていやちょっとマッチの方が良かったかなとか、I sent 'match,' and after sending it, I was in the bathroom, I sent 'chotto match' and thought, oh, maybe 'chotto match' would've been better, or...
後悔したのちょっと。I regretted it a bit.
なんかちょっとマッチとかなんか色々あるでしょ。There's like 'chotto match' and various ones, right.
ちょっとまあ何例えば、わかん、私そういう親父ギャグ言わない。Well, like what, for example? I don't know, I don't make those dad jokes.
ちょっと、そうだ。Just, that's right.
親父ギャグっていうのやめてくれ。Stop calling it dad jokes.
なんか親父ギャグって言われてもうもう言いたくない。Like, if you call it dad jokes, I don't want to say them anymore.
ギャグを言いたくない。I don't want to say gags.
そう。Right.
そのレッテルはやめてくださいよ。Please stop with that label.
どうなんだろ。I wonder.
だから私本当になんか面白いこと言えないもんね。So I really can't say anything funny.
あの前のだからそれがすごくプレッシャーになるもん。Because of that last time, so that becomes a lot of pressure.
あのお笑いの話前回も言いましたけど。About the comedy thing, I mentioned it last time too.
でもさ、そそそのね、私はギャグが言えないみたいな話がもうギャグになってるじゃん。But, you know, that thing about me not being able to do gags has itself become a gag.
いや、うん。No, yeah.
そう。Right.
うん。Yeah.
私は面白いことが言えないんですっていうのが面白い話になっているという。That whole "I can't say anything funny" has become the funny story.
これはわざとなんですか、君ちゃん。Is that on purpose, Kimi-chan?
いや、わざとじゃない。No, it's not on purpose.
いや、だからなんなんていうの。No, so like, what do you call it.
人はなんかなんか天然みたいに私をね言う時もある。People sometimes say I'm like a natural airhead.
ね。Right?
でも天然ではないと、いや別に仕組んではないけど、別に私面白いこと言おうと思ってないもん。But I'm not a natural, well I'm not scheming anything, but I wasn't trying to say anything funny in the first place.
うん。Yeah.
そもそもね。In the first place, you know.
うん。Yeah.
でもそれが結果的に誰かにとって面白いことになっているっていうのは、なんかこうお笑いとは違うじゃん。But the fact that it ends up being funny to someone is kind of different from comedy, isn't it?
お笑いは面白い話をしようと思って作り出してるでしょ。Comedy is created with the intention of telling something funny, right?
だから私そもそもそういうふうに狙ってできないもん。So I can't do that kind of aiming in the first place.
うん。Yeah.
わかる。I get it.
できない。I can't.
いやなんかね、キミちゃんの面白いってやっぱり話じゃない絶対。No, you know, Kimi-chan's funniness is definitely not the story.
話じゃなくてあの声だよ声。It's not the story, it's that voice, the voice.
声。The voice.
やっぱ声が面白いもん。Your voice is funny after all.
声がそう。The voice, yeah.
なんか失礼じゃない。Isn't that kind of rude?
うんまあまあいつもはいいんじゃないのだからいつもはいいけどなんかあのなんかあの謝罪みたいなのはやらない方がいいと思う思うよね。Well, usually it's fine, so usually it's fine, but like that apology thing, I think you shouldn't do it.
なんかそのごめんなさいみたいな時に。Like when you say sorry or something.
あるじゃん。You know, there is that.
あのテレビとかで、その会社の社長とかが謝ったり、なんか芸能人とかが何かこう交通事故起こしてしまって謝ったりとか。Like on TV, when a company president apologizes, or a celebrity apologizes for causing a traffic accident or something.
はいはいはい。Yeah yeah yeah.
なんか君ちゃんがそういうとこで多分謝ってるように聞こえないと思うよね。If Kimi-chan were there, it probably wouldn't sound like you're apologizing.
なんか例えば校長先生、ごめんなさい、私の子供が窓ガラスを割ってしまいましたとか言ったら、おやおやLike for example, principal, I'm sorry, my child broke the window glass, and you'd be like, oh my oh my.
声が笑ってるんじゃないかよ。It sounds like your voice is laughing.
いやいやそんなえ何真剣味が足りないってことそういうこと？No no, what, do you mean I lack seriousness, is that it?
なんかそういうことか。Is that what you mean?
なんてかなんなんなんかこうやっぱ鼻に詰まってるというかWhat is it, like, it's kind of nasal or something.
ひどいひどいひどい何真剣味が足りないってことみたいな。That's terrible, terrible, terrible, what, do you mean I lack seriousness?
そんな喋り方してなくない？I don't talk like that, do I?
そんな喋り方してないよ。I don't talk like that.
うん。Yeah.
でもなんかあの私の旦那さんにあのね。But like, to my husband, you know.
でね、なんか私の旦那さんにそんなそんなでも自分の声ってわかんないからね。And, like, to my husband, well you can't tell your own voice yourself.
なんかそういう風に聞こえるのかな。I wonder if it sounds like that.
まあいや声だけじゃなくてそのなんかちょっと投げやりな感じとかね。Well, it's not just the voice, it's also that kind of throwaway feeling.
いやそんなのしょうがないだろう。No, that can't be helped.
だってそんなこと言ってもしょうがないじゃん声なんだから。Even if you say that, it can't be helped, it's your voice.
なんなのWhat is that?
ちょっとイラっとしてきたよ。I'm starting to get a little annoyed.
そうそう。Yeah, yeah.
はい。Yes.
まあまあまあまあまあまあちょっとキミちゃんのいいこと言うようにしよう。Well well well well well well, let's try to say nice things about Kimi-chan.
そうさんざん言っといてそれがさっきの生徒さんがいやキミちゃんこの前キミちゃんのYeah, after saying all that, that student from earlier was like, no, Kimi-chan, the other day Kimi-chan's
あの、中級ポッドキャストを聞いてたら皆さんどんどん私を褒めてくださいって言ってました。Um, when I was listening to the intermediate podcast, everyone was saying please compliment me more and more.
っていう方向性です。That's the direction it's going.
え、キミちゃんそんなこと言ってんの。What, Kimi-chan, are you saying that.
え、そんなこと言ったっけ。Huh, did I say that.
うん、言ってた、もう言ってたらしい。Yeah, you said it, apparently you already said it.
あら。Oh my.
そう。Yeah.
なんか覚えていない。I don't really remember.
そう、褒められたら嬉しいです。Yeah, being complimented makes me happy.
どんどん褒められたいみたいなこと。Like, I want to be complimented more and more.
あれ、ど、そ、どんな時に言ったかな、全然覚えてない。Huh, when did I say that, I don't remember at all.
まあとにかく、あれ、うん、え、何、それでうざいっていう話じゃないですか。Anyway, um, yeah, uh, what, so isn't this about being annoying.
まあだからそのいわゆる天然ですねみたいなこと。Well, so that's what's called being a natural airhead.
マジか、さっきの生徒さんにもそういう風に言われてるのか。Seriously, did that student just now say that about me too.
いやいや、でもそれいいらしいよ、だから本当にそのまま続ければいいって言ってた、とにかく変わらないでください。No no, but apparently that's good, so they said just keep going exactly as you are, just please don't change.
変わらない。Don't change.
あ、そうですか。Oh, is that so.
ありがとうございます。Thank you very much.
じゃあちょっとポジティブに取りますね。Then I'll take that positively.
そうそうそう。Yes, yes, yes.
うん。Yeah.
でもなんかあの旦那さんにね、あのいやなんかBut like, to my husband, you know, like no, like
こう私のねこうやなんかしょうもない普段の生活の話がLike, a lot of people tell me that my silly everyday life stories
なんか結構面白いって言ってくれる人が多いんだよっていう話をしたら、are pretty funny, when I told him that,
それは全部俺のおかげだ。He said that's all thanks to me.
ね、なんかほぼね私の長いね付き合いがねもうほぼ20代Well, like, we've been together for a long time, since my twenties,
の時からもう半分ですよ人生の半分以上彼といますからね。I've spent half my life, more than half my life with him.
っていうことはそのいろいろなハプニングは全部俺を通してのだからお前が面白いんじゃない俺が面白いんだみたいな。Which means all those mishaps are through him, so it's not you who's funny, it's me who's funny, like that.
まあ確かに。Well, that's true.
まあだからまあそうなんだけどね。Well, so yeah, that's true though.
金人にあたときは初めてね。When I met Kimi-chan for the first time.
俺がキミちゃんに会ったときはまだまだ彼がいないよね。When I met Kimi-chan, he wasn't around yet, right.
あのそうそうそうそうそうそうだね。Oh, right right right right right, yeah.
そうあのときまあまあ面白くなかったね確かにね。Yeah, at that time, well, you weren't that funny, certainly.
でAnd
いやなんか話すこともあんまりないっていうかね。Like, there wasn't much to talk about or anything.
私は箱田店のあのなんとかなんか分かんないなもうおいしいねみたいなそんな感じ。I was like, Hakodata store's um something, I don't know, it's tasty, like that kind of feeling.
当たり障りのないね。Playing it safe.
どうだったかなあんま覚えてないな。I wonder how it was, I don't really remember.
うん。Yeah.
ええってでも何じゃそれで一緒にねシェアハウスしたときはあのときはもういたよね彼がHuh, but what, then when we shared a house together, he was already around at that time, right
いたいたよね。He was, he was.
うんうん。Yeah yeah.
なんかいつも文句言ってた気がするなそのいやだからあのときはキミちゃんたちは別々で住んでたよねちょっと。I feel like you were always complaining, like, so at that time you Kimi-chans were living separately for a bit, right.
そうそうそう。Right, right, right.
えでもあの時電話とかしてた。But at that time we were calling on the phone and stuff.
たまにしてたのかな。We did sometimes, I guess.
あんまりしてなくないなんか。We didn't really do it that much, did we.
いやあそうそうであの時はまだねすごいすごいそうそうスカイプとかなくて国際電話みたいなのってとにかくNo yeah, right, right, and at that time there was no Skype or anything, international calls were just
簡単に電話できない時It was a time when you couldn't just easily call
そうそういう時代だったからなんかメールみたいなのでRight, it was that era, so it was like email
ねでしかもその旦那の携帯がメール対応じゃないとかそういう時代なんだだからAnd besides, my husband's phone couldn't even do email, it was that era, so
そういうネットなんかこうSo like the internet
ネットカフェみたいなところでAt like an internet cafe
なんかこう返すみたいなすごいアナログアナログっていうかすごい時代だよねそうそうそうでなんかreplying from there, it was so analog, analog, I mean what an era, right, right, and like
英語勉強してたけど、なんかその彼からのなんかこう長文が来るわけじゃん。I was studying English, but then like these long messages would come from him, you know.
長いメッセージはよくわかんない。I couldn't really understand the long messages.
そうそうそうそう。Right, right, right, right.
で長いメッセージがなんかもうなんかこう疲れるっていうか面倒くさいっていうか。And those long messages were just kind of exhausting, or like a hassle.
でそれで一言とかで返してたら、向こう的には何だこれはみたいなね。And so when I replied with just a word or so, he was like, what is this.
すごい苦労して、ねネット見る環境に来て、オーケーだけかよみたいな。He went through so much trouble to get somewhere with internet, and all I wrote was okay.
なんかそうそれでちょっとまずいと思って、だから来たんだよ。So I thought that was bad, that's why I came.
私があまりにだよね。Because I was so... you know.
そうそうそうそう。Right, right, right, right.
来てたときかなりなんかもうなんかすごかったよね。When you came it was already pretty intense.
えすごかった。It was intense.
すごかったでまあそのはちゃめちゃだったよね。It was intense, well, it was chaotic.
はちゃめちゃだってあの覚えてる。It was chaotic, I remember that.
あのさあのなんだっけどっかさ六本木かなどっか飲みに行ったじゃん。You know, what was it, we went drinking somewhere like Roppongi.
そうそうそう六本木のクラブに行ったり。Right, right, we went to a club in Roppongi.
そうクラブ行ったけどなんか最初そうバーYeah we went to a club, but at first like a bar
みたいなとこ行ってさそうそうそうあれ君ちゃんも行ったかな行ったよでそれでさなんか変な女の人がさwe went to a place like that, right, right, did Kimi-chan go too? You went, and then like some weird woman
なんかうちの旦那の隣に座ってなんかちょっと声をかけてなんか怪しい人がいたねsat next to my husband and talked to him, there was a sketchy person
ちょっと待ってそれは勘弁なそんな一緒にいたWait, give me a break, we were together
俺もいたいたいやいたよいたよでそれでなんかあのそう電車に乗って一緒に行ったじゃんI was there too, I was there, no I was there, and then we took the train together
いやいやNo no
なんかでうんAnd yeah
で飲んだじゃんで飲んでAnd we drank, and we drank
でなんか終電があるからもう帰らなきゃいけないって言ってAnd then I said we have to go home because there's a last train
でもなんかうちの旦那さんがまだ遊び足りないみたいな感じでダダをこねてでももう終電がね。But my husband was acting like he hadn't partied enough and was throwing a fit, but the last train...
あのもうもう本当にマジでやばいねっていうことでIt was like, this is really seriously bad
ダダをこねて動かないみたいなことを言ったから私がぶち切れてビンタをしたんでHe was throwing a fit and wouldn't move, so I snapped and slapped him
初めて人にビンタをしたんで、私お前何やってんの顔パチン。It was the first time I slapped someone, like what are you doing, smack.
ちょっと覚えてないなそれ。I don't really remember that.
俺、私覚えてる。I, I remember it.
痛い。Ouch.
なんかでもてっちゃんはもうねチケットとか買いにBut Tecchan had already gone to buy tickets or something
なんかわかんないけど駅の駅のなんかそのそうなんかこう付近I don't know, near the station, like around there
を歩いているときになんか立ち止まってなんかダダをこねたね。while we were walking he stopped and threw a fit.
もういやだいやだみたいなもっと飲みたいみたいな感じで。Like no no, I want to drink more.
お前お前みたいな。Like hey you.
私がぶち切れてもういい加減にしなさいみたいな。I snapped like cut it out already.
でパチンパチンって初めて人をね、私人生で叩いたから覚えてるんですよ。Smack smack, it was the first time in my life I hit someone, so I remember it.
そうそこで。Yeah, right there.
でそれでなんかははみたいな感じで帰ったね。And then we went home like ha ha.
ちょっと待ってえそれ三人だったっけその時Wait, was that three people at that time?
いや三人そうだよね三人じゃないでもだってその元彼女いなかったよねその時多分多分No, it was three people, right? It wasn't three? But his ex-girlfriend wasn't there then, probably, probably
三人で飲みに行ったんだようんThe three of us went out drinking, yeah
そうYeah
でそこでパチンパチンしていやもう覚えてないなAnd then there we went snap snap, no, I don't remember anymore
いやもうだって酔っ払ってたじゃない酔っ払ってたそう酔っ払ってた覚えてるのはねなんかあの電車の中でなんかNo, because we were drunk, we were drunk, yeah, we were drunk, what I remember is like in the train, like
なんかタトゥーのたくさん入ったSomeone with lots of tattoos
なんかピアスあの舌舌がピアス舌がピアスだったあその人がヘビみたいにね舌がそうなんか切れてたんだよそうLike piercings, uh, tongue, tongue was pierced, tongue was pierced, ah, that person was like a snake, tongue was like split, yeah
スプリットタンの人がそうそうそうそうそうそうそうペロペロペロってこうチロチロチロってこう見せてでThe split-tongue person, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, going lick lick lick, flicking it like this to show us, and
なんかおおみたいなこれは現実なのか想像なのかみたいなもう酔っ払ってるしねもういやいやいやいやいや。Like, whoa, is this reality or imagination, and we were drunk already, no, no, no, no, no.
えそれって息じゃなかった？Huh, wasn't that Iki?
それ息息息だよね。That's Iki, Iki, Iki, right.
うんでも六本木にでもなんかもうあんまり覚えてないな。Yeah, but in Roppongi, but I don't really remember anymore.
なんか酔っぱらって行ったからね。Because we went there drunk.
もう家で酔っぱらって。Already drunk at home.
そうもうもうすでに飲んでたんだよ。Yeah, we were already drinking.
そうそうそう。Yeah, yeah, yeah.
そうそう、飲みながら行ったからね。Yeah, yeah, we went while drinking.
もう覚えてないじゃない。You don't remember anymore.
うんそうそんなことが。Yeah, well, something like that.
まあだから楽しかったでしょ。Well, so it was fun, right.
いやだからはちゃめちゃだったっていうもうわがままわがままし放題だったんだよね。No, so it was just crazy, I was just totally selfish, doing whatever I wanted.
まあねあの時だっていやだって彼は働いてないしその休みみたいな感じだからWell, at that time, I mean, he wasn't working, so it was like a break
もうなんかずっと飲んでたもんね昼から。We were just drinking all the time from noon.
うんまあなんか結構ほったらかしてたよね。Yeah, well, we kind of left him alone a lot.
なんか志はバイト。Kokorozashi was working part-time.
ああそうそうそうね志木田でなんかあのイングリッシュパブみたいなところによく行ってたよね。Ah, yeah, yeah, in Shikida, we often went to like an English pub.
そうそうそうそう一人でなんか行って飲みってで君ちゃんもまあ仕事してたし。Yeah, yeah, yeah, going alone to drink, and Kimi-chan was working too.
そう。Yeah.
俺もなんかレンタルビデオやったりして。I was doing rental videos and stuff too.
そう。Yeah.
ま、でも。Well, but.
そう。Yeah.
なんていうかな。How should I put it.
まあ確かにね。Well, certainly.
彼がいたときはいろいろ、あ、なんかもうちょっとこうドラマがあったけど。When he was there, there was, like, a bit more drama.
でもいないときさ、だから君ちゃんと俺とあのナオで三人でそのルームシェアしていたときは、まあ多分一年ぐらいかな。But when he wasn't there, so when Kimi-chan and me and Nao, the three of us were sharing that room, it was probably about a year.
うん。Yeah.
まあももとかのまね。Well, Momo and stuff too.
あ、そう。Oh, really.
いやいやでも。No, no, but.
あ、そっか。Oh, I see.
家なかったって。He said he had no home.
そうだよ。That's right.
え？Huh?
完全に一緒に住んでたんだって。We were completely living together.
違うよね。That's not right.
違う違う違う。No, no, no.
家はあったね。He had a home.
誰が？Who?
あ、その俺の彼女。Ah, that's my girlfriend.
ない。No.
なかった。There wasn't.
部屋に住んでたじゃん。She was living in the room, right?
あ、完全なかったんだって。Ah, there really wasn't at all.
うん。Yeah.
え、より住んでたよ。Huh, she lived there more.
あ、何言ってんだ。Ah, what are you saying.
じゃあ荷物がよく入ったなと思って。Then I thought, how did all the stuff fit.
荷物少なかったのか。She didn't have much stuff.
まあわからないけどいやいやいや一緒に住んでさすがにいやちょっとでも一緒に住んでた割にはうんそんなに一緒にいないよね。Well, I don't know, but no no no, we lived together, but for living together, well, we weren't really together that much.
君ちゃんとかそのなんかいやだからあの時は私Kimi-chan and like, no, so at that time I...
むしろなんか君ちゃんの方が時間が合うんだよね俺とそのそうそうそうそうそうぶっちゃけテッActually, Kimi-chan's schedule matched mine better, me and, yeah yeah yeah, honestly Te...
ちゃんと私っていうペアが多かったねIt was often me and ... as a pair.
なんかなんか勉強しにさなんかさサイゼリアじゃないLike, we went to study somewhere, like, not Saizeriya...
けどなんかどっか行った時にジョナサンでね、ファミレスそうそうそうそうそうそう多分あそこでなんか勉強したり時間があるからねBut like when we went somewhere, at Jonathan's, a family restaurant, right right right, probably we studied there or had time there.
そう彼女の方は忙しかったあの普通に会社で働いてたからねYeah, my girlfriend was busy, she was working at a regular company.
朝起きてまあ夜まで働いて寝るみたいな。Wake up in the morning, work till night, then sleep, like that.
そうだからあんまり、うん、そうだからあの友達とはそんなに遊んだ記憶ない。So I don't really, yeah, so I don't remember hanging out with friends that much.
だから君ちゃんはなんか、君ちゃんでもあの時一週間に四日ぐらい働いてたかな、五日ぐらい働いてた。So Kimi-chan, even Kimi-chan was working like four days a week back then, maybe five days.
うん、Yeah,
覚えてないけど、覚えてないけど、でも、でもなんか結構時間があって、だから君でも君ちゃんとI don't remember, I don't remember, but, but like she had quite a lot of free time, so with Kimi-chan...
なんかこういろいろ話してたっていうよりはなんか一緒に英語の勉強したり一緒に筋トレしたり。Rather than talking about various things, we studied English together, worked out together.
筋トレしたっけ？Did we work out?
筋トレしてたよ。We did work out.
筋トレ、いや私見てた、なんか筋トレした記憶ないけど。Working out, no, I was watching, I don't remember working out though.
とかしてたじゃない、腹筋するぞみたいな。We did stuff like that, like let's do sit-ups.
え、全然そんな記憶ないけど。Huh, I don't remember that at all.
うん、まあで結構そのルーティンとしてはそんなにあのなんていうかな、なんかこうドラマとかはなかったよね。Yeah, well, as a routine, there wasn't really, how should I put it, any drama.
ないないなんかこう静かなルーティンが流れていく。No no, like a quiet routine just flowed by.
でもそうねでもなんかさあのてっちゃんのお友達と一緒になんか鍋食べたりとかさBut yeah, but like, we ate hot pot together with Tecchan's friends and stuff.
なんか結構誘ってくれたよねてっちゃんがね。You invited us quite a lot, Tecchan.
誰？Who?
ともや誰？Tomoya, who?
斉藤君。Saito-kun.
ああのほら全然ちょっと記憶が薄れているけどほらなんかあの外国人の彼女がいたじゃんAh, you know, my memory's a bit fuzzy, but you know, he had a foreign girlfriend.
ドイツ人じゃんあの加太間君？She's German, Katama-kun?
そうそうイボンヌねはいはいはいそうそうそうそうそうそうそうそうえイボンヌと行った？Yeah yeah, Yvonne, yes yes yes yes yes yes yes, wait, did you go with Yvonne?
私一回ご飯食べたそこのおうちでうんでなんかあの。I ate with them once at their place, and like...
圧巻とかねShe served maki and stuff.
圧巻とか出してくれて、そうそうそうそう、すごい日本なんか日本人の女性よりも日本人なShe served maki and stuff, yeah yeah yeah, she's more Japanese than Japanese women.
なんか、そうそうそうそう、かな、イボンヌね、ね、なんかそれに私はすごい感動したから覚えてる、Like, yeah yeah yeah, Yvonne, you know, I was really moved by that so I remember it,
そうそうそうそう、ね、すごいよね。Yeah yeah yeah, she's amazing.
あれキミちゃんいたのかな。I wonder if Kimi-chan was there.
いや、うん、なんかその辺影薄かったかもしれないけど、いた。No, well, she might have been in the background, but she was there.
キミ、キミですとか言って、よろしくお願いしますとか言ってたのか。Did she say like, I'm Kimi, nice to meet you?
いやそれ言ってないけど、言ってないけどいた、うん、ちょろっとね。No, she didn't say that, she didn't, but she was there, yeah, briefly.
あ、じゃあ斉藤くんもいたのか。Ah, so Saito-kun was there too?
え、全然分かんない、もうなんか全然あんまりその男の人は覚えてないけど、イボンヌだけ覚えてる、イボンヌね、うん、Huh, I don't know at all, I don't really remember the guys much, I only remember Yvonne, Yvonne, yeah,
そうそうそうそう、レンタルビデオのまあコミュニティでね。Yeah yeah yeah, in the rental video community.
あ、そうなん。Oh, really?
そうそう。Yeah, yeah.
なんか全然分かんない。Like I have no idea at all.
そういう、うん。That kind of, yeah.
そうそうそう。Yes yes yes.
片山くんはなんかレンタルビデオに行って、まあでもDJとかやったりして、Katayama-kun would go to the rental video store, and well, he was doing DJ stuff too,
あの時もね、多分そのなんかDJっぽいことやってたよね、部屋の中で。At that time too, you were probably doing DJ-like stuff in your room.
で、うん。And, yeah.
なんかどこまで覚えてて覚えてないか、俺も完全に今思い出したよ。I don't remember how much I remember and how much I don't, but now I've completely remembered it.
それは。That part.
うん。Yeah.
でもなんか、だからお互いにこうね、前回も言ったけど、覚えてる部分違うんだよね。But like, so we each, like I said last time, remember different parts.
そう。Right.
そう。Right.
え、私はイボンヌのなんかそのね、そこイボンヌそこ完全に覚えてるね。No, I totally remember that part about Yvonne, you know, that part there.
そう。Yeah.
えでもそこにいたけど、他の音楽とかなんかDJとか全然覚えてない。But even though I was there, I don't remember the other music or DJ stuff at all.
ちょっとあのヒッピーっぽい部屋だったの覚えてる？Do you remember it was kind of a hippie-like room?
ええ。Yeah.
妹のはなんかちょっとヨガっぽい感じだったよね。Your sister's was kind of more yoga-like, wasn't it?
うんうんうん確かにね。Yeah yeah yeah, exactly.
うんうんうん。Yeah yeah yeah.
はいはい。Yes yes.
そうそうねいろいろだからちょこちょこねなんか誘ってくれて結構テッちゃんがキミちゃんこれやろうとか言って誘ってくれてRight, so like in various ways, Tecchan would invite me here and there, like he'd say hey Kimi-chan let's do this
私がほいほいやろうついていったって感じだよね。And I was like sure, let's do it, and just followed along.
子分みたいな。Like a sidekick.
そう。Right.
なんなんか妹みたいなちょっと犬みたいなそんな感じでよしキミちゃん散歩行くぞみたいな。Like a little sister, kind of like a dog, like okay Kimi-chan, let's go for a walk.
そうそうそう。Yes yes yes.
買い物行くぞとかね。Or like, let's go shopping.
そうそう。Right right.
ちょっとなんか本当になんか犬を連れて行くような感じで。Like really taking a dog along with you.
そうそうそう。Yes yes yes.
卵ででも卵買いに行くぞとかね。Like, let's go buy some eggs.
そうそうそうでもなんかテッちゃんがさもともと英語始めたのはさ私の影響じゃない？Right right right, but Tecchan, didn't you start English because of my influence?
出た出た出たよ。Here it comes, here it comes.
私の影響、私があなたを作った。My influence, I made you.
いや、違う違う違うよ。No, no no no.
いや、それ本当に違う。No, that's really not it.
なぜかというと、違う逆だもん。Because it's the opposite.
全部が。All of it.
あのね、まずまずですよ。Well, first of all.
まずね、いや、すべては俺から始まるの、キミちゃん。First, no, everything starts from me, Kimi-chan.
まずまずここちょっと覚えてほしい。First of all, I want you to remember this.
まずね、すべては俺から始まるんです。First, everything starts from me.
なぜかというと、これこの世界はまあ俺の世界だから。Because, you know, this world is, well, my world.
あの、まああのね、なんか始まった。Well, you know, it started.
いやあのね、そのだからえっと一番最初にえっと大学生の時にNo you know, so like the very first time, when I was in college
キミちゃんと会う前ねにえっと東南アジアに行ったんだよね。Before I met Kimi-chan, I went to Southeast Asia.
俺が初めての旅行で。On my first trip ever.
ショーンとアツミと三人ででまあえっとタイ、ベトナム、カンボジアに行って。The three of us, Sean and Atsumi and me, well, um, we went to Thailand, Vietnam, Cambodia.
でその時に英語を話したいと思ったキミちゃんにはもっと前ね。And at that time, Kimi-chan, even earlier than that, I thought I wanted to speak English.
そして帰ってきてね。And then we came back.
そこから帰ってきて、よし英語を勉強するぞって俺が言い始め、そこでその俺の前の彼女ね。After coming back from there, I started saying, okay, I'm going to study English, and then my ex-girlfriend at that time.
だからキミちゃんと会った。So I met Kimi-chan.
彼女がだからその英語の勉強始めたの。She's the one who started studying English.
その後。After that.
そして彼女がオーストラリアにワーキングホリデーに行って、そこでキミちゃんと出会ったと。And then she went to Australia on a working holiday, and that's where she met Kimi-chan.
だから結局なんか俺俺が行ったからキミちゃんがそのワーキングホリデーでその生まれた。So in the end, like, because I went, Kimi-chan was born from that working holiday.
そう。Right.
全然私別のところでいやいや別の私大阪で英語を勉強ね大学生の時してて。No, I was somewhere else, no no, I was studying English in Osaka when I was a university student.
でも英語頑張ろうって思ってワーホリ行ってるからね。But I went on a working holiday because I thought I'd work hard at English.
ちょっと待って大阪にいたの、キミちゃん。Wait a minute, you were in Osaka, Kimi-chan?
そうだよ、私。That's right, I was.
いやなんかさそういうのもさいつもなんか後から後から出てくるじゃん、キミちゃんは。No, like, that kind of stuff always comes out later and later, Kimi-chan.
なんかいや実は大阪にいたとか、そう実はなんか東京で生まれたみたいな。Like, no, actually I was in Osaka, or like, actually I was born in Tokyo or something.
東京で生まれてない生まれは函館だけど。I wasn't born in Tokyo, I was born in Hakodate though.
え、函館です。Huh, Hakodate.
え、生まれは函館なの？Huh, you were born in Hakodate?
生まれは函館だよ。I was born in Hakodate.
でどこに行ったんだってその後。So where did you go after that?
いやでもなんかあのお父さんのなんか転勤でいろいろいろいろ引っ越した。Well, but like, my dad got transferred and we moved around a lot.
どこ？Where?
え？Huh?
いやなんか札幌とか東京とか神奈川とか千葉とか、あ、いろいろ関東。Like Sapporo and Tokyo and Kanagawa and Chiba, ah, all over Kanto.
そう、だから小学校三年生までいろいろ関東行って、でRight, so until about third grade of elementary school I was all over Kanto, and then
三年生の後半くらいから函館に戻って、で、そうでそこから高校までは函館、From about the second half of third grade I went back to Hakodate, and, yeah, from there until high school I was in Hakodate,
うんうんUh-huh, uh-huh
って感じで、それで、それでそう大阪行って、でそれでワーホリ行った。like that, and then, and then yeah I went to Osaka, and then I went on a working holiday.
うん、大阪の話は聞いてたかな。Yeah, I think I'd heard about Osaka.
うん、よくない。Yeah, right.
なんか今作られた気がするな。I feel like that was just made up now.
いやいやいや、私の歴史ね、そうそうそう。No no no, that's my history, yeah yeah yeah.
歴史とかあるの、キミちゃんに。You have a history, Kimi-chan?
なんなんかあの。What, like, um.
ないよ、なんだよ。No I don't, what do you mean.
あ、なんかあのワーキングホリデーから始まったみたいな感じだ。Ah, like, it felt like it started from the working holiday.
レッちゃんの中ではね、そうそうでしょ。In Recchan's mind, right, yeah that's right.
もちろん。Of course.
そうそう、やっぱり知らないことはさ、存在しないのと同じだから。Yeah yeah, after all, what you don't know is the same as not existing.
そう。Right.
そう、ちゃんと言ってくれないと、キミちゃんがあのRight, unless you tell me properly, Kimi-chan, that
そのそのワーキングホリデー、オーストラリアのいわゆるプレヒストリーがあるなんて、もう全く想像もしてなかった。that working holiday, that Australia one, has a so-called prehistory, I never imagined that at all.
あ、ででもなんかそのさ、やっぱりあのここの話でちょっと関連するんだけど、Ah, but like, this is kind of related to that, though,
この今の私たちの過去の話。this talk about our past right now.
うん。Yeah.
ここのこのポッドキャストって生徒さんにとってちょっと難しいらしいよ。This podcast here is apparently a bit difficult for our students.
あ、そう？Oh, really?
うん。Yeah.
なんかいろいろね、なんかフィードバックを私も聞いて、で、あるI've heard various feedback, and, one of them
生徒さんはそののりこさんとてっちゃんの方が難しいっていう人もいる。Some students say that Noriko-san and Tecchan's [podcast] is harder.
でもそれはなんかタメ語と敬語の差だと思う。But I think that's just the difference between casual speech and polite speech.
で、でもなんかこの前の生徒さんはAnd, but like, a student the other day
なんかいやえっと私たちのポッドキャストの方が難しいなぜならなんかそののりこさんとてっちゃんLike, no, um, our podcast is harder because like, Noriko-san and Tecchan
のヒストリーはそのポッドキャストから始まってるじゃん。Their history started from that podcast, right.
そうそう出会いはね。Right right, how we met.
そうそう。Right right.
そうだからでも私とてっちゃんはそのポッドキャスト始める前があるじゃん思い出思い出があるわけ。Right, so but Tecchan and I have a time before we started the podcast, right, we have memories, memories.
でその思い出話をあのしている時のエピソエピソードがちょっと難しいらしい。And apparently the episodes where we're talking about those memories are a bit difficult.
なんか分かんないけど。I don't really know why though.
いや、そうじゃないと思う。No, I don't think that's it.
そう。Yeah.
やっぱそれはそうじゃない。Yeah, that's definitely not it.
それはもうのりこさんとキミちゃんの違いだよ。That's just the difference between Noriko-san and Kimi-chan.
のりこさんはわかりやすい。Noriko-san is easy to understand.
キミちゃんは何言ってるか分かんないと。With Kimi-chan, you can't tell what she's saying.
生徒さんはそれを言いたかったんだと思う。I think that's what the student wanted to say.
そんなことないよ、だってある生徒さんは私の方がわかりやすいわかりやすいっていうかいや難しいのりこさんの方が難しいって言ってた。That's not true, because one student said I'm easier to understand, or rather, Noriko-san is harder.
それは言葉がわかりづらいとかそういうことじゃない。That's not about the language being hard to understand or anything like that.
うん。Yeah.
そのトピックの話で。It's about the topics.
ああ、のりこさんの方がちょっとレベルの高いトピックが多くて、キミちゃんはもうレベルが低いと。Ah, Noriko-san covers slightly higher-level topics, and Kimi-chan's are just low-level.
ちちちち。Wha-wha-wha-wha.
ちな、なんなの今日すごい貶して。By the way, what is it, you're dissing me so much today.
いやいやいや違う違うそんなことないよ。No no no, that's not it, not at all.
いつも通りです。It's just as usual.
いつも通り貶してますね。You're dissing me as usual.
そうまあまあまあまあまあね。Well, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
そう突拍子もないことはたまに言いますけど。Well, I do say outlandish things sometimes.
いやいやなんかねある人とか言ってたのはやっぱりグループが違いますねと。No no, what one person was saying is that the group is different.
あそうなの。Oh, really.
そうやっぱりそのキミちゃんとは友達だからその友達グループがあってそれがすごくいいですって言ってた。Yeah, because you're friends with Kimi-chan, so there's that friend group and that's really nice, they said.
え。Huh.
うんまあまあその遠慮、遠慮ないってことね。Yeah, well, meaning there's no holding back.
うんそうそうだから遠慮ないってこと。Yeah, right, meaning no holding back.
うんうんもうちょっと遠慮しろよな。Yeah yeah, you should hold back a little more.
キミこそへっちゃらだよね。You're totally fine with it too, Kimi.
で嫉妬してるのね。So you're jealous.
やっぱりあれなの今の千葉のママ友とかそういうの嫉妬しないの。Like, aren't you jealous of the mom friends in Chiba now or anything?
キミちゃんはさ、みたいなキャラが変わってんの?Kimi-chan, is your character different or something?
その、いや、え、どうだろう。Um, no, uh, I wonder.
だってキミちゃんってさ、もともとさ、まあその彼、彼との関係の中でもそうなってると思うし、Because Kimi-chan, originally, well, even in your relationship with him, I think it's like that,
あの、その、だから二十年前のさ、そのUm, so, like twenty years ago, that
ね、ルームシェアの関係でもやっぱちょっとyou know, even in that roommate relationship, still a bit
まあどじっ子というか、ちょっと妹、ちょっとなんかいつもなんかわたわたしてるWell, like a klutz, or like a little sister, always kind of flustered
みたいな。like that.
どうなの?So how is it?
今はなに、もうしっかりしたママみたいな感じなの?Now, are you like a proper, responsible mom or something?
いや、しっかりしたママではないと思うけど、すごい人みたいな。No, I don't think I'm a responsible mom, but like an amazing person or something.
いや、わかんない、ちょっと今度聞いてみようかな。No, I don't know, maybe I'll ask them next time.
いや、それ聞くの?No, are you asking that?
何?What?
いや、わかんなくない?No, like, don't you not get it?
おや、キャラは、うん、いやいやいやいや、私の立ち位置?Oh, my character, yeah, no no no no, my position?
え、自分の立ち位置、自分でわかる?Huh, do you know your own position yourself?
めっちゃわかるよ。I totally know mine.
え、本当?Huh, really?
いやどうなの。No, how is it.
なんかえ私ママ友の中ではうんLike, um, among my mom friends, yeah
なんかいつも忙しそうとかねなんかLike always busy or something, like
なんかてんやわんやしてね大変大変そうみたいな同じじゃんLike always looking busy, all flustered and like having a hard time, same thing right
じゃあイメージとそのまんまってことねSo you're just as your image suggests then
うんえでもドジっ子的なキャラではないんじゃんえわかんないドジっ子じゃないのドジっ子じゃない頼りになる、Yeah, but I'm not like a clumsy-cute character, right? I don't know, am I not clumsy-cute? Not clumsy-cute, reliable,
いや、うん頼りにはならないから頼りには頼りにされたことはないNo, yeah, I'm not reliable, I've never been relied on
頼りにはならないそう頼りにはならないけどなんかこうI'm not reliable, yeah I'm not reliable but like,
頑張ってるねみたいな。Like you're trying hard, you know.
いや頑張ってるはあの、いやそれは俺もかなり評価してて頑張ってるはあるよずっとそれはでもずっとあるよ前からNo, about trying hard, well, I really give you credit for that, you do try hard, you've always had that, from before
なんか頑張ってるとなんか頑張ってそれはあるよそれはいいことだと思うよ。Like trying hard, you do try hard, that's there, I think that's a good thing.
うんまあそれくらいかな。Yeah, well, that's about it I guess.
ただなんか上品とか落ち着いてるとかそういうのはあんまないかな。But like elegant or calm, I don't really have that.
あないね。Oh, no you don't.
うんなんかないね。Yeah, you don't.
なんていうかなまあまあだからいろいろな意味で若いよねやっぱりキミちゃんはまだ。How do I put it, well, in many ways you're still young, Kimi-chan.
えそう。Really?
うんでそれはいいんじゃないのやっぱり。Yeah, and isn't that a good thing.
うんなんかこうなんていうかなバイタリティがあるっていうかYeah, like how do I say it, you have vitality
いやだからね例えばさなんか俺俺にも焦りがあってやっぱこうキミちゃんにもなんか飲まれちゃうんじゃないかなと。No, so like for example, I also have this焦 worry that I'm gonna get overwhelmed by you, Kimi-chan.
何に飲まれる。Overwhelmed by what.
やっぱこうキミちゃんと話しているともうなんていうかなもうキミちゃんのカロリーがさこう熱がさこうLike when I talk with you, Kimi-chan, how do I say it, your calories, your heat,
もうドミネートしてくるっていうかさやっぱこれをさ、ノリコさんと話しているとねやっぱりあ日本語コンテッペウィズノリコってIt just dominates, like when I talk with Noriko-san, it's like Japanese contemplate with Noriko
感じがするけどもうこれはねもう日本語コンキミウィズテッペみたいになっててBut this is like Japanese con Kimi with Teppe
そんなことなくないいやいやなんかもう強いもんキミちゃんがThat's not true, no no, you're just strong, Kimi-chan
強いかAm I strong
いやあのあれでしょノリコさんはなんかすごい包容力がある感じでNo, like Noriko-san has this really accepting vibe
なんか受けと聞き役みたいなポジションなやっぱりちゃんお姉さんだからねそうそうそうそうそうまキミちゃん妹だからね。Like she's the listener, the one who takes it in, she's the older sister after all, yeah yeah yeah, and Kimi-chan's the little sister.
うん。Yeah.
でもなんか、But like,
いやでもやっぱりその、この前さっき言ったね、その20年前、25年ぐらい前はキミちゃんはちょっとやっぱ本当に後ろをついてくる妹だったのが、But still, like I said earlier, 20 years ago, about 25 years ago, Kimi-chan was really a little sister following behind me,
もう今はなんかもうキミちゃんがあの俺という老犬を引っ張る、But now it's like Kimi-chan is pulling me, this old dog,
そんなことない。That's not true.
もうジジイのね、親父ギャグ言ってんじゃねえよみたいな感じで、ジジイになった僕をこう連れて散歩に出ているっていう感じがする。Like dragging me, this old man who makes dad jokes like shut up with your old man jokes, taking me out for a walk.
全然しない、全然しない。Not at all, not at all.
しかもさ、やっぱりなんかその怖がらせるようなエピソードも入れてくるじゃん。And also, you throw in episodes that scare me, you know.
だから六本木で彼の顔を叩いたみたいな話をしてLike telling that story about slapping his face in Roppongi
おいて、てっぺ、お前も私の言うこと聞かないと顔を叩くぞみたいな。And then, Teppe, if you don't listen to me I'll slap your face too, like that.
もうそういうなんか、そんなことしないよ。I would never do that.
戦略的な脅しみたいなのも含まれていて。There's like a strategic threat included in that too.
やっぱり逆らうとやばいなみたいな。Like it'd be bad to defy you.
いやね、いや本当にだってあれ一回きりだからね、人生でね。No, no, really, that was only once in my life.
あ、そう。Oh, really.
バシッでした。It was a sharp slap.
なんかさっきの話の流れだとあれが初めでした。From how the story was going earlier, that was like the first one.
その後続くあのビンタの一回目ですみたいな。Like that slap was the first one, and then it continued after that.
まるでなんかポッドキャストの第一話みたいな感じで、その後続きましたあのビンタはみたいな。It was just like the first episode of a podcast, and then that slap continued after that.
ええしてないです。No, I haven't.
あたし元々そういう喧嘩とか無理だからね。I'm just originally not cut out for fights and stuff.
まあね。Well, yeah.
そう。Right.
そうだから人生で喧嘩した時はもうすごい今もあの記憶に残る数回しかなくてすごい覚えてるもんやっぱり。Right, so the times I've fought in my life, there are only a few memorable ones that still stick in my memory, I really remember them.
おおそうなの。Oh, really?
うん私ちゃんと本当結構何すごい一番すごい喧嘩は何？Yeah, so what was really your biggest fight ever?
えっと今日のさ、え今日のさ、そうそう。Um, today's, uh today's, yeah yeah.
いやなんかもう最近喧嘩もしなくなって、それが結構さらにやばいと思うよ。No, like I don't even fight anymore lately, and I think that's actually even worse.
やっぱ喧嘩しないのってやばくない?Isn't it bad to not fight, don't you think?
どう?What do you think?
いいの?Is it okay?
やばいね。It's bad, yeah.
いや喧嘩し、だ、キミちゃんのさママ友たちもいるじゃん。No, I mean, Kimi-chan, you have your mom friends too, right?
やっぱりこう奥さんたちの話を聞いてどう、もうなんか喧嘩してる時はまだいいんじゃないの?Hearing the wives' stories, what do you think — isn't it still okay when you're fighting?
喧嘩しなくなるとやばいとか言わない?Don't they say it's bad when you stop fighting?
もう。Right.
うん、なんか諦められてるんじゃない?Yeah, like aren't you just being given up on?
てっちゃん。Tecchan.
ちょっと待ってよ。Wait a minute.
なんで一方的なの?Why is it one-sided?
いやでもさ、え、けん、なんか諦めはやっぱあるんじゃないの?But still, hey, isn't there, like, some giving up involved?
キミちゃんたちもあるよね。You guys have that too, right, Kimi-chan?
特に国際結婚ってさ、もうなんかまあある程度しょうがないかなみたいなのもあるじゃん。Especially with international marriage, there's kind of that feeling like, well, it can't be helped to some extent, right?
どう?What do you think?
まああるけどなんかでもうちの旦那さんはまあポジティブな言い方をするとすごいWell, there is, but my husband, well to put it positively, he's really
あのなんかそうならないようにすごくUm, like he really tries hard so that doesn't happen.
努力してる。He puts in effort.
ああ私私が努力してない。Ah, so I'm the one not putting in effort.
ああじゃあ彼は何か問題があったときにちゃんと話そうっていうふうにいつもするんだね。Oh, so when there's a problem he always tries to talk it through, huh.
いやなんかそういうそういうんじゃないの。No, it's not like that.
そういうのじゃないのどういうこと。What do you mean it's not like that.
ちょっとだな何を。Well, what is it.
いやどうどういうこと。No, what do you, what do you mean.
いやそういうなんかあの素敵な解決方法とかじゃなくてなんかこうとりあえずNo, it's not like some wonderful solution like that, it's more like, for now
自分のなんか自分はこうこう思ってるとかLike what he himself thinks, like this and that,
そういうなんかこういう風に私がやったら夫婦関係がうまくいくみたいなLike, if I do it this way our marriage will go well,
なんかそういうなんかフェイスブックとかであるじゃんなんかショートYou know those things on Facebook, like Shorts,
でなんかその語ってる。Where someone's like preaching.
なんかLike,
あの別に夫婦関係じゃなくて子供の教育とかいろんななんかショートでNot just about marriage, but about kids' education and all kinds of Shorts,
なんかこう名言集みたいなさ、わかるLike collections of famous quotes, you know?
ああいうのをなんか男はこうだ女はこうで男はこうしたらいうこと聞いてくれるみたいなLike men are like this, women are like that, and if men do this women will listen,
なんかそういうのとかをちょこちょこ私に毎日絶対送ってくる。He sends stuff like that to me every single day without fail.
マジでそれかなりSeriously, that's pretty...
まあまあまあとにかくそうで結構面倒くさくてなんか見なかったりすんだよね、オッケーみたいな。Well well well, anyway, so it's pretty annoying and I sometimes just ignore it, like okay whatever.
それでそれでなんかお前見たのかみたいななんかたった三十秒くらいの動画も見れないのかみたいな。So like, he's all "did you even watch it?" like, you can't even watch a video that's only like thirty seconds long?
そうYeah.
まあっていうででもまあまあWell, like, but, well, well
でも彼なりのそういうこうこういうふうにしたらうまくいくよとかを探してまあそのシェアしてそうそう共有したいみたいな、そう。But in his own way, like, if you do it this way it'll go well, he's looking for that kind of thing and sharing it, like, he wants to share it, yeah.
うん、まあでも自分がこうね、そう自分したいんだよね、基本彼はね、俺は俺はみたいな。Yeah, well, but he wants to do it himself, like, basically he's like, I'm me, I'm me.
まあでもまあ彼がやりたいこととか彼が考えている考えとかそういうのはキミちゃんはもうもう嫌なぐらいはわかってるってことね。Well, but like, what he wants to do and what he's thinking, you, Kimi-chan, you understand it to the point you're sick of it, right.
うん、まあそれは大事だわ。Yeah, well, that's important.
そうそうそう、あの同意するしないを置いといて彼の意見はもうすごくはっきりわかっていると。Right right right, like, putting aside whether you agree or not, his opinion is very clearly understood.
そうでキミちゃんはそれを言うの？So, do you say it, Kimi-chan?
キミちゃんの考えみたいな押すの？Do you push like, what Kimi-chan thinks?
ちゃんと私はこう思うなんか言う時もあるけど言う間がない時も。There are times when I properly say like, this is what I think, but there are also times when there's just no chance to say it.
もうはいはいそう。Like, yeah yeah, right.
いやなんかいやもうなんかなんていうの、向こうが喋り倒してNo, like, how do I put it, he just talks and talks and talks
私に意見を言う隙がないみたいな。Like I don't even get a chance to give my opinion.
わかる。I get it.
でもさそれなんかいつか爆発しないの？But like, doesn't that explode someday?
キミちゃんが。Like you, Kimi-chan.
いやいやするするするだから喧嘩するよ。No no, it does, it does, it does, so we fight.
爆発したらバーっていうのキミちゃんが。When it explodes, you just go off, right, Kimi-chan?
うんいやうん言う言う言う言う言う。Yeah, no, yeah, I say it, I say it, I say it, I say it, I say it.
うん言うよ。Yeah, I say it.
うん。Yeah.
でお互いバーって言って仲直りして。And we both just let it all out and then make up.
そうね。Right.
そういう感じなんかだからあの次の日とかなんかあるじゃんずっと喋らない夫婦It's like that, so like, you know how there's couples who just don't talk the next day or whatever
ああいうのはないもんだからその寝る前までには絶対まあまあそのもうさ数時間でケリはつくね。We don't have that kind of thing, so we definitely, well, settle it within a few hours before bed.
うん。Yeah.
いいね。That's nice.
え違うの？Huh, it's different for you?
まあそうなんないなんかいわゆるホットウォーにならずにコールドウォーになる感じがあるよね。Well, it doesn't become like that, it doesn't become a hot war, it tends to become a cold war.
あそうなんだ。Oh, really.
どちらかといえばねその前はだからそういう感じだったけど最近はIf anything, yeah, before it was like that, but lately
まあでも最近本当にね喧嘩自体なくなって、Well, but lately we really don't even fight at all,
特に子供のこと子供のことはなんかいろいろな意見の違いとかあるけど、二人になると本当にないよ喧嘩なんて。Especially about the kids, like there are differences of opinion about the kids, but when it's just the two of us, there's really no fighting at all.
あれ。Huh.
うん。Yeah.
悪い。Sorry.
大丈夫。It's fine.
おいおいおい悪いと大丈夫同じタイミングで言ったけど。Hey hey hey, you said sorry and it's fine at the same time.
いやでも四十五だもんもうそんなもんじゃないのどうなのそんなそんなに熱く喧嘩できるかな。No, but I'm 45 already, isn't that just how it is? I wonder, can you even fight that passionately?
うんどうYeah, how
なの。is it.
いやわかんないやっぱ俺もそろそろテストステロンの注射とか打った方がいいのかな。No, I don't know, maybe I should start getting testosterone shots or something soon.
そしたらやっぱり自分の主張こう言うかな。Then maybe I'd assert myself more.
うん、そうそうね。Yeah, right, yeah.
家に来なよ。Come over to my place.
いやでもさ、俺前からそうじゃん。But like, I've always been like that.
そのだから一緒に散歩するとか、一緒にスーパー行って卵買うとか、もうそれでなんか幸せだから、あんまりそのLike, just taking a walk together, or going to the supermarket together to buy eggs, just that makes me happy, so not really that
その実はさ、自分自分がこう思うみたいなのはもうポッドキャストで満たされてるし、うん、せ、そうじゃない。Actually, you know, my own opinions like what I think, that's already fulfilled by the podcast, yeah, isn't that it.
キミちゃんにね、これそう最後にこれを言いたかった。To Kimi-chan, this, this is what I wanted to say in the end.
そのさある程度さポッドキャストって満たされるよね。You know, to some extent, podcasts are fulfilling, right?
そう、そうそうなの。Yes, exactly, that's right.
ポッドキャストってなんか自分でセラピーっていうかさ、そうわかる。Podcasts are kind of like therapy for yourself, you know, I get it.
そうだから自分で言いたいことを言う言うことによってなんかスッキリするよ。So by saying what you want to say, you feel refreshed.
だからね、これはね本当思ってたあのたまにSo, this is something I really thought, sometimes
ポッドキャストって何話せばいいんですかとかそういう人もいてでもそういう人は残念ながらやっぱり向いてないかもしれない。Some people ask what should I talk about on a podcast, but unfortunately those people might not be suited for it.
あのキミちゃんめっちゃ向いてるよ。Kimi-chan, you're really suited for it.
だからもうなんかそうどんどんなんかいやだから話さないと多分So like, more and more, no, if you don't talk, probably
あの病む。you'll get sick.
そうそうそうそうそう話すことによって自分がまともになっているっていう。Yes, yes, yes, yes, by talking, you're keeping yourself sane.
そうそうだからでなんかこう話してるうちになんか整理されていくとかで気持ちもなんか落ち着くし、Yeah, so as I talk, things get sorted out, and I feel calmer,
あ自分ってこう思ってたんだなとかって思ったり。like, oh, so this is what I was thinking.
そうそうそうなんですよ。Yes, yes, exactly.
いいよね。It's nice.
そうだ。That's right.
うんいやだからキミちゃんのポッドキャストを聞いてる皆さん、Yeah, so to everyone listening to Kimi-chan's podcast,
あのキミちゃんいつも続けてくれてありがとうとかじゃなくて、これは本当にキミちゃんのためにやってて、it's not like, thank you for always continuing it, this is really being done for Kimi-chan herself,
あの皆さんそれに付き合わされているっていうだけなので。and everyone is just kind of going along with it.
そうそうそうそう。Yes, yes, yes, yes.
そしてまあキミちゃんもそうよ。And Kimi-chan too, right.
いやそうそういやでもさらに言えばやっぱりその聞いてる人ももちろん日本語の。No, yeah, and furthermore, of course the listeners too, for Japanese.
リスニングの練習になるわけで、まあウィンウィンなんですよ。It becomes listening practice, so it's win-win.
ウィンウィン。Win-win.
そう。Yeah.
一石二鳥ね。Killing two birds with one stone.
ウィンウィンなんてないよ、ほとんどこの世界に。There's hardly any win-win in this world.
え、そう。Oh, really?
いやだって例えばマクドナルドのね、店員とかがマクドナルドのハンバーガーを作ることを喜んでやってるわけじゃないじゃん。I mean, for example, McDonald's staff aren't happily making McDonald's hamburgers just for fun, right?
やっぱり。Right?
お客さんは喜んでるかもしれないけど、働いている人はあ、僕はお客さんが来なくてもハンバーガーを作ることが趣味なんで嬉しいですとかそんなないじゃんね、普通は。The customers might be happy, but the workers aren't like, oh, even if no customers come, making hamburgers is my hobby so I'm happy, that doesn't normally happen.
うんうん。Yeah, yeah.
ね。Right?
でもキミちゃんはいや別に誰も聞いてなくても私はポッドキャスト取りますみたいな私のために。But Kimi-chan is like, even if no one listens, I'll record a podcast, like, for myself.
うん。Yeah.
私のためにFor myself
とまではまだ思ってないけど。I don't quite think that far yet, but.
でも自分にもいいことがあるってことはね確実。But it's definitely true that it's good for me too.
そうそうそうそうそうそう。Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
うん。Yeah.
そう。Yeah.
そう。Yeah.
だからウィンウィンです。So it's win-win.
うん、そうね、そうだからまあそういう気持ちで作っていると、Yeah, right, so well, with that feeling, making it,
いやでも本当にね、なんかだからそのまあ中級ポッドキャストはさらにいいと思った。No, but really, that's why I thought the intermediate podcast is even better.
それはやっぱりさらになんかもっと自然に話せるし、日々起きるこういろいろなことをね話せるから、That's because you can speak even more naturally, and talk about various things that happen day to day,
そのまま続けてくださいっていうのが、あのキミちゃんのファンの生徒から僕がこうso please keep it up, that's what I've been
伝えられてることです。told to pass on from Kimi-chan's fan students.
あ、ありがとうございます。Ah, thank you very much.
はい、頑張ります、頑張ります、続けます。Yes, I'll do my best, I'll do my best, I'll keep going.
はい、このあとじゃあまあそろそろ、いや、Yes, after this then, well, soon, no,
えっと今日はちょっと空くかな、うん、次は違う、もうちょっと開きます。Um, I wonder if I have some free time today, yeah, next is different, I'll open up a bit more.
じゃあ何するの？So what are you going to do?
いや忙しいんですよ、今日はね。No, I'm busy today.
うん、今日はええ、ご飯を今日は作らない。Yeah, today, well, I'm not cooking today.
もう時間がないね。There's no time anymore.
ちょっと待って、ちょっと待って今の話の流れ変じゃない。Wait a minute, wait a minute, isn't the flow of conversation weird now.
今日忙しいんですよ。I'm busy today.
今日はこの後ご飯を作らない。Today after this I'm not making dinner.
作らない。Not making it.
じゃ何をする？Then what will you do?
もうもうもういや時間がもう本当に短い時間しかあのほらお昼を届けなきゃいけないじゃん。No no no, I really only have a very short time, you know, I have to deliver lunch and stuff.
ああそう。Oh, right.
そうそうそう。Yeah yeah yeah.
そのそれをねそうそう作る時間。That, that time to make it.
あでももうね大工さんだからねいなくなっちゃったね。Ah but the carpenter is gone now.
あのね彼一人で今そうなんかフェイスブックとかを見てるとYou know, he's alone now, like when I look at Facebook and stuff
いやもうねそうだもうでもなんかね本当大変なんだよなんかもう二度手間とかさNo, it's really tough, like having to do things twice and stuff
結局シンク買ったけど違うシンク買ってもう一度買わなきゃいけないとかさしょうがないねそうそういうのが起きてIn the end we bought a sink but bought the wrong sink so we have to buy it again, can't help it, that kind of thing happens
あとやもう道だよね毎日And the road, every day
その。That.
勉強してる、なんかそのどう、どうやってどういう風に漆喰をStudying, like how, how to do plaster
ね、壁漆喰の塗り方とかさ、その材料どこで買うとか、まあそういうのもやってYou know, how to apply plaster walls, where to buy materials, well doing that kind of stuff too
そうなんですよ。Yes, that's right.
で、子供のこともあるし、まあね、そのな、その習い。And there's the kids too, well, you know, those lessons.
あ、じゃあキミちゃんも何かそういうのはやってるってことね、やっぱり日本語であの調べたりとか。Ah, so you're doing that kind of thing too, Kimi-chan, like researching in Japanese.
そう、でもむしろ漆喰は私にやれって言われてて。Yeah, but rather I'm being told to do the plastering.
あ、じゃあもうキミちゃんは大工さんになると。Ah, so Kimi-chan is going to become a carpenter.
そう、もうだから大工さん帰っちゃったからね。Yeah, so the carpenter went home.
そう、やばいってことで、じゃあもうもうもうね、私がやらなきゃいけない。Yeah, so it's bad, so I have to do it myself now.
そう、これもザ・カーペンターズだよね、キミちゃんたちはもう。Yeah, this is The Carpenters, you guys are.
コンピューター、そう、そう、そう、そう、そう。Computer, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
まあね、そうだから本当に限られた時間でやらなきゃいけないから、ちょっと焦っているけど、まあなんとかなるとね、はい。Well, so I have to do it in really limited time, so I'm a bit rushed, but it'll work out somehow, yes.
まあまあ。Well well.
なんとかなるなんとかなると注文をとないあのねやってるよ。It'll work out, it'll work out, I'm taking orders, you know.
なんかその家の様子をもうユーチューブにしたらもうめっちゃヒットしそうだよね。Like if you put the house situation on YouTube it would get a huge hit.
本当にね。Really.
リアル。Real.
もっとそうそうそうそうもっとやっとけよかったとき。Yeah yeah yeah yeah I should have done more back then.
でももうなんか本当にそこまで余裕ない。But I really don't have that kind of leeway.
そうだよね。Right.
あれあれユーチューブをやる人って余裕がある人たちだからね。People who do YouTube are people who have leeway.
そうそうそう余裕あってまあなんかね第二弾やりまーすみたいな。Yeah yeah yeah, with leeway, like we're doing part two or whatever.
そうそうそう。Yeah yeah yeah.
ねもううちらもそんな余裕ない切羽詰まってやってる。We don't have that leeway, we're doing it under pressure.
マジだからね。Seriously.
そうマジ価値です。Yeah, seriously valuable.
そうそうそう。Yeah yeah yeah.
本当に応援してます。I'm really rooting for you.
ありがとうございます。Thank you.
頑張ります。I'll do my best.
はい。Yes.
まあまあキミちゃん皆さんまた来週。Well, Kimi, everyone, see you next week.
またね。See you.
はい。Yes.
バイバイ。Bye-bye.